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Draft House Minutes

No. 142

Tuesday, 16 October 2018

- 12:00:16 PM

 1The House met, at 12 noon, pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker (the Honourable A. D. H. Smith) took the Chair, made an acknowledgement of country and read Prayers.

- 12:01:15 PM

Mr Burkesought leave to move a motion. Leave not granted..

- 12:01:46 PM


Mr Burke  moved—That so much of the standing orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Watson from moving the following motion immediately—That the House rejects the resolution put to the Senate yesterday which included a white supremacist slogan that is also used by hate groups like the Ku Klux Klan.

- 12:11:44 PM

Debate ensued.

Mr Dreyfus 12:11:49 PM. Mr Pyne 12:16:42 PM.
- 12:26:56 PM

The time allowed by standing order 1 for debate on the motion having expired—

- 12:27:22 PM

Question—That the motion for the suspension of standing orders be agreed to—put.

A division having been called for, in accordance with standing order 133 the division was deferred until after the discussion of the matter of public importance.

- 12:28:08 PM

 3Treasury Laws Amendment (Lower Taxes for Small and Medium Businesses) Bill 2018

Mr Frydenberg (Treasurer) presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to taxation, and for related purposes.


Mr Frydenberg presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 12:28:29 PM

Mr Frydenberg moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 12:36:31 PM

Mr Frydenberg asked leave for debate to ensue. 

Objection being raised, leave not granted.

- 12:33:20 PM

Mr Frydenberg, pursuant to contingent notice, movedThat so much of the standing orders be suspended as would prevent the resumption of debate on the motion that the bill be read a second time being made an order of the day for a later hour.

- 12:33:29 PM

Debate ensued.

Mr Bandt 12:33:43 PM.
- 12:43:01 PM

Question—That the motion to suspend standing orders be agreed to—put and passed.

- 12:44:13 PM

 4 Treasury Laws Amendment (Lower Taxes for Small and Medium Businesses) Bill 2018

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr Bowen 12:44:24 PM. Mr T. R. Wilson 12:54:07 PM. Dr Chalmers 1:01:21 PM. Mr Wallace 1:12:15 PM. Dr Leigh 1:19:08 PM.
- 1:30:09 PM

It being 1.30 pm, the debate was interrupted in accordance with standing order 43 and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 1:30:13 PM


Members’ statements were made.

Mr Zappia 1:30:19 PM. Dr McVeigh 1:31:43 PM. Mr Gosling 1:33:18 PM. Mr Vasta 1:34:51 PM. Ms L. M. Chesters 1:36:21 PM. Mr Ted O’Brien 1:37:54 PM. Mr Katter 1:39:29 PM. Mr L. S. O’Brien 1:41:11 PM. Ms Brodtmann 1:42:36 PM. Mr O’Dowd 1:44:07 PM. Mr Gorman 1:45:34 PM. Mr Pitt 1:47:04 PM. Mr B. K. Mitchell 1:48:45 PM. Mr Pasin 1:50:08 PM. Mr Perrett 1:51:31 PM. Mr Zimmerman 1:53:02 PM. Ms Ryan 1:54:28 PM. Mr van Manen 1:56:03 PM. Dr Aly 1:57:34 PM. Mr Sukkar 1:59:14 PM.
- 2:00:24 PM


- 2:00:31 PM

 (1)Mr Shorten to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:02:23 PM

 (2)Mr Vasta to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:05:47 PM

 (3)Mr Burke to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:06:45 PM


Mr Morrison (Prime Minister) presented the following document: Senate motion No. 1092—Statement from the Leader of the Government in the Senate.

- 2:07:04 PM

Questions without notice continuing—

Mr Porter 2:07:10 PM.
- 2:09:37 PM

 (4)Mrs Marino to Mr Frydenberg (Treasurer)

- 2:13:12 PM

 (5)Ms Plibersek to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

Point of order, Mr Pyne. 2:13:57 PM. Mr Morrison 2:14:36 PM.
- 2:17:11 PM

 (6)Ms Sharkie to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:20:39 PM

 (7)Mr Drum to Mr McCormack (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development)

- 2:24:13 PM

 (8)Mr Bowen to Mr Frydenberg (Treasurer)

- 2:27:09 PM

 (9)Mr Falinski to Mr Frydenberg (Treasurer)

- 2:30:49 PM

 (10)Mr Dreyfus to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:33:54 PM

 (11)Mr Alexander to Ms O’Dwyer (Minister for Jobs and Industrial Relations)

- 2:37:31 PM

Distinguished visitor announced.

- 2:37:38 PM

 (12)Ms Plibersek to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:41:12 PM

 (13)Mr Leeser to Mr Pyne (Minister for Defence)

- 2:44:40 PM

 (14)Ms Plibersek to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:48:37 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.49 pm the Member for Griffith (Ms T. M. Butler) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for continuing to interject after a warning had been given by the Chair and she accordingly left the Chamber.

- 2:48:50 PM

Questions without notice continuing—

- 2:48:53 PM

 (15)Mr C. Kelly to Mr Dutton (Minister for Home Affairs)

- 2:52:09 PM

 (16)Mr Shorten to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:54:28 PM


Mr Morrison (Prime Minister) presented the following document: US has broken taboo on Jerusalem: Australia should lend support—The Sydney Morning Herald—Dave Sharma, 18 May 2018.

- 2:54:57 PM

Questions without notice continued.

- 2:56:04 PM

Mr Shorten (Leader of the Opposition)sought leave to present a document. Leave not granted..

- 2:56:23 PM

 (17)Mr Evans to Mr Ciobo (Minister for Defence Industry)

- 2:59:40 PM

 (18)Mr Shorten to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 3:02:17 PM

 (19)Mr Laming to Mr Hunt (Minister for Health)

- 3:05:59 PM

 (20)Mr Fitzgibbon to Mr McCormack (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development)

- 3:09:46 PM

 (21)Ms Flint to Mrs K. L. Andrews (Minister for Industry, Science and Technology)

- 3:13:32 PM


The following documents were presented: 

Aged Care Pricing Commissioner—Report for 2017-18.

*Australian Centre for International Agricultural Research—Report for 2017-18.

*Australian Commission on Safety and Quality in Health Care—Report for 2017-18.

*Australian Fisheries Management Authority—Report for 2017-18.

Australian Institute for Teaching and School Leadership—Report for 2017-18.

*Australian Organ and Tissue Donation and Transplantation Authority—Report for 2017-18.

*Australian War Memorial—Report for 2017-18.

Bundanon Trust—Report for 2017-18.

*Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO)—Report for 2017-18.

*Department of Jobs and Small Business—Report for 2017-18.

*International Air Services Commission—Report for 2017-18.

*Murray-Darling Basin Authority—Report for 2017-18.

National Australia Day Council—Report for 2017-18.

*Royal Australian Mint—Report for 2017-18.

*In accordance with the resolution agreed to on 28 March 2018, the documents were made Parliamentary Papers.

- 3:13:54 PM

Question to SpeakerMr Hillre unanswered questions in writing.

- 3:14:29 PM


The House was informed that Ms Plibersek (Deputy Leader of the Opposition), had proposed that a definite matter of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion, namely, “The need to remove discrimination against LGBTI students and school staff”.

- 3:14:41 PM

The proposed discussion having received the necessary support—

- 3:14:45 PM

Ms Plibersek addressed the House.

- 3:24:55 PM

Discussion ensued.

Mr Tehan 3:24:59 PM. Mr Giles 3:34:49 PM. Mr Irons 3:39:51 PM. Ms Ryan 3:44:57 PM. Mr Ramsey 3:50:10 PM. Mr Perrett 3:55:11 PM. Mr Leeser 4:00:18 PM. Mr Keogh 4:05:20 PM. Mr Laming 4:10:12 PM.
- 4:15:14 PM

Discussion concluded.

- 4:15:19 PM

 9Suspension of standing orders—DEFERRED DIVISION

The order of the day having been read for the motion moved by Mr Burke

The following question, on which a division had been called for and deferred in accordance with standing order 133, was put—

Question—That the motion for the suspension of standing orders be agreed to (see item No. 2 page 1885).

- 4:15:49 PM

Division 418

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 70

Mr Albanese

Mr Danby

Ms Keay

Mr Perrett*

Dr Aly

Mr Dick

Dr M. J. Kelly

Ms Plibersek

Mr Bandt

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Keogh

Ms Rishworth

Ms Bird

Mrs Elliot

Mr Khalil

Ms Rowland

Mr Bowen

Ms Ellis

Ms C. F. King

Ms Ryan*

Ms Brodtmann

Mr Fitzgibbon

Ms M. M. H. King

Ms Sharkie

Mr Burke

Dr Freelander

Ms Lamb

Mr Shorten

Ms Burney

Mr Georganas

Dr Leigh

Mr Snowdon

Mr M. C. Butler

Mr Giles

Ms McBride

Ms Stanley

Ms T. M. Butler

Mr Gorman

Ms McGowan

Mr Swan

Mr Byrne

Mr Gosling

Mr Marles

Ms Swanson

Dr Chalmers

Mr Hart

Mr B. K. Mitchell

Ms Templeman

Mr Champion

Mr Hayes

Mr R. G. Mitchell

Mr Thistlethwaite

Ms L. M. Chesters

Mr Hill

Mr Neumann

Ms Vamvakinou

Mr Clare

Ms Husar

Mr O’Connor

Mr Watts

Ms Claydon

Mr Husic

Ms O’Neil

Mr Wilkie

Ms Collins

Mr Jones

Ms O’Toole

Mr Zappia

Mr Conroy

Ms Kearney

NOES, 71

Mr Abbott

Mr Evans

Mr Laming

Ms Price

Mr Alexander

Mr Falinski

Ms M. L. Landry

Mr Pyne

Mrs K. L. Andrews

Mr Fletcher

Mr C. A. S. Laundy

Mr Ramsey*

Mr K. J. Andrews

Ms Flint

Mr Leeser

Mr Robert

Ms Banks

Mr Frydenberg

Ms Ley

Mr Sukkar

Ms Bishop

Dr Gillespie

Mr Littleproud

Mr Taylor

Mr Broad

Mr Goodenough

Mr McCormack

Mr Tehan

Mr Broadbent

Mr Hartsuyker

Dr McVeigh

Mr Tudge

Mr Buchholz

Mr Hastie

Mrs Marino

Mr van Manen

Mr D. J. Chester

Mr Hawke

Mr Morrison

Mr Vasta

Mr Christensen

Ms Henderson

Mr Morton

Mr Wallace

Mr Ciobo

Mr Hogan

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mrs Wicks

Mr Coleman

Mr Howarth

Mr L. S. O’Brien

Mr R. J. Wilson

Mr Coulton

Mr Hunt

Mr O’Dowd

Mr T. R. Wilson

Mr Crewther

Mr Irons

Ms O’Dwyer

Mr Wood

Mr Drum*

Mr Joyce

Mr Pasin

Mr Wyatt

Mr Dutton

Mr Keenan

Mr Pitt

Mr Zimmerman

Mr Entsch

Mr C. Kelly

Mr Porter

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

Point of order, Mr Burke. 4:19:52 PM.
- 4:28:12 PM

 10Human Rights—Parliamentary Joint Committee—REPORT—STATEMENT BY MEMBER

Mr Goodenough (Chair) presented the following document:

Human Rights—Parliamentary Joint CommitteeHuman rights scrutiny report: Report 11 of 2018Report, 16 October 2018.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.

Mr Goodenough 4:28:30 PM.
- 4:28:33 PM

Mr Goodenough, by leave, made statement in connection with the report.

- 4:31:41 PM

 11 Treasury Laws Amendment (Lower Taxes for Small and Medium Businesses) Bill 2018

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr Falinski 4:31:53 PM. Ms M. M. H. King 4:38:48 PM. Dr Gillespie 4:53:51 PM. Mr Thistlethwaite 5:08:16 PM. Mr Pitt 5:19:05 PM. Ms Owens 5:24:14 PM. Mr van Manen 5:36:02 PM. Mr Gorman 5:46:22 PM. Mrs Wicks 5:51:59 PM. Mr Bandt 5:57:00 PM. Mr Howarth 6:09:13 PM. Mr Evans 6:18:20 PM. Mr Robert 6:24:18 PM.
- 6:26:03 PM

Question—put and passed—Mr Wilkie dissenting—bill read a second time.

- 6:26:49 PM

Leave granted for third reading to be moved immediately.

Mr Robert (Assistant Treasurer) moved—That the bill be now read a third time.


- 6:27:22 PM


The House divided and only Mr Bandt and Mr Wilkie voting “No”, the Deputy Speaker (Mr Hastie) declared the question resolved in the affirmative.

- 6:31:49 PM

Bill read a third time.

- 6:32:02 PM

 12 Customs Amendment (Product Specific Rule Modernisation) Bill 2018

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr Neumann 6:32:15 PM. Mr Broad 6:39:27 PM.
- 6:45:08 PM

Question—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 6:45:20 PM

Leave granted for third reading to be moved immediately.

On the motion of Mr Broad (Assistant Minister to the Deputy Prime Minister), the bill was read a third time.

- 6:45:47 PM

 13 Treasury Laws Amendment (Gift Cards) Bill 2018 

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

- 6:46:00 PM

Debate resumed by Ms M. M. H. King who moved, as an amendment—That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:

 (1)notes the Government’s lack of support for, and failure to protect, Australian consumers; and

 (2)calls on the Government to reinvigorate the national Consumer Affairs Forum process, to enable the much-needed reform of Australian Consumer Law”.

Debate ensued.

Mr T. R. Wilson 7:00:53 PM. Mr Dick 7:08:37 PM. Mr Zappia 7:23:40 PM.
- 7:30:06 PM

Mr Zappia addressing the House—

- 7:30:10 PM


It being 7.30 pm—The question was proposed—That the House do now adjourn.

Debate ensued.

Dr Leigh 7:30:16 PM. Dr McVeigh 7:35:18 PM. Mr Bandt 7:40:22 PM.
- 7:45:00 PM

Mr Bandtsought leave to present a document. Leave not granted..

Mr Wallace 7:45:18 PM. Mr Gorman 7:50:25 PM. Mr Ted O’Brien 7:55:30 PM.
- 8:00:33 PM

The House continuing to sit until 8 pm—The Speaker adjourned the House until 9.30 am tomorrow.

- 8:00:36 PM


 The following documents were deemed to have been presented on 16 October 2018 (An explanatory statement has been presented with each instrument unless otherwise indicated by an asterisk)

 Christmas Island Act 1958—List of Acts of the Western Australian Parliament for the period 1 April to 30 September 2018.

Civil Aviation Act 1988—Civil Aviation Regulations 1988 and Civil Aviation Safety Regulations 1998—GNSS Navigation Under the V.F.R. (CGG Aviation) Instrument 2018—CASA 68/18 [F2018L01396]—Replacement explanatory statement.

Cocos (Keeling) Islands Act 1955—List of Acts of the Western Australian Parliament for the period April to 30 September 2018.

Defence Act 1903—Determination under section 58B—Defence Determination, Conditions of Service Amendment (Post index locations) Determination 2018 (No. 37) [F2018L01432].

Health Insurance Act 1973

Health Insurance (Section 3C General Medical Services—General Practitioner Telehealth Services) Determination 2018 [F2018L01430].

Health Insurance (Section 3C General Medical Services—Other Medical Practitioner) Amendment Determination 2018 [F2018L01431].

Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation Act 1988—Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation Amendment (Renewal Date) Regulations 2018 [F2018L01433].

Therapeutic Goods Act 1989—Therapeutic Goods Legislation Amendment (2018 Measures No. 3) Regulations 2018 [F2018L01434].

- 8:00:41 PM


All Members attended (at some time during the sitting) except *Ms MacklinMrs Prentice*Mrs Sudmalis and Mr J. H. Wilson.

* On leave