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Draft House Minutes

No. 163

Thursday, 21 February 2019

- 9:30:18 AM

 1The House met, at 9.30 am, pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker (the Honourable A. D. H. Smith) took the Chair, made an acknowledgement of country and read Prayers.


- 9:31:30 AM

Mr Fitzgibbonsought leave to move a motion. Leave not granted.


- 9:31:54 AM

 2SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDERS MOVED

Mr Fitzgibbon  moved—That so much of the standing orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Hunter from moving the following motion forthwith—That the House:

(1)notes that:

(a)this Government is telling Australians to boycott milk produced by Australia’s dairy farmers; and

(b)Australia is now the only country in the world with a Government that is telling consumers to boycott its own nation’s produce; and

(2)therefore, condemns this Government for hurting Australian farmers when they are already doing it so tough.


- 9:41:31 AM

Debate ensued.


Mr Jones (Seconder),  9:41:39 AM. Mr Littleproud 9:44:02 AM. Mr Katter 9:52:51 AM.
- 9:58:02 AM

The time allowed by standing order 1 for debate on the motion having expired—


- 9:58:06 AM

Question—put.


- 9:58:18 AM

Division 460

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 68

Mr Albanese

Mr Conroy

Ms Kearney

Ms O’Toole

Dr Aly

Mr Danby

Ms Keay

Mr Perrett*

Mr Bandt

Mr Dick

Dr M. J. Kelly

Ms Plibersek

Ms Bird

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Keogh

Ms Rishworth

Mr Bowen

Mrs Elliot

Mr Khalil

Ms Rowland

Ms Brodtmann

Ms Ellis

Ms C. F. King

Ms Ryan*

Mr Burke

Mr Fitzgibbon

Ms M. M. H. King

Mr Shorten

Ms Burney

Dr Freelander

Ms Lamb

Ms Stanley

Mr M. C. Butler

Mr Georganas

Dr Leigh

Mr Swan

Ms T. M. Butler

Mr Giles

Ms McBride

Ms Swanson

Mr Byrne

Mr Gorman

Ms Macklin

Ms Templeman

Dr Chalmers

Mr Gosling

Mr Marles

Mr Thistlethwaite

Mr Champion

Mr Hayes

Mr B. K. Mitchell

Ms Vamvakinou

Ms L. M. Chesters

Mr Hill

Mr R. G. Mitchell

Mr Watts

Mr Clare

Mr Husic

Mr Neumann

Mr Wilkie

Ms Claydon

Mr Jones

Mr O’Connor

Mr J. H. Wilson

Ms Collins

Mr Katter

Ms O’Neil

Mr Zappia

NOES, 73

Mr Alexander

Ms Flint

Ms Ley

Mr Pyne

Mrs K. L. Andrews

Mr Frydenberg

Mr Littleproud

Mr Ramsey*

Mr K. J. Andrews

Mr Gee

Mr McCormack

Mr Robert

Ms Banks

Dr Gillespie

Ms McGowan

Ms Sharkie

Ms Bishop

Mr Goodenough

Dr McVeigh

Mrs Sudmalis

Mr Broad

Mr Hastie

Mrs Marino

Mr Sukkar

Mr Buchholz

Mr Hawke

Mr Morrison

Mr Taylor

Mr D. J. Chester

Ms Henderson

Mr Morton

Mr Tehan

Mr Christensen

Mr Hogan

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr Tudge

Mr Ciobo

Mr Howarth

Mr L. S. O’Brien

Mr van Manen

Mr Coleman

Mr Hunt

Mr O’Dowd

Mr Vasta

Mr Coulton

Mr Irons

Ms O’Dwyer

Mr Wallace

Mr Crewther

Mr Joyce

Mr Pasin

Mrs Wicks

Mr Drum*

Mr Keenan

Dr Phelps

Mr R. J. Wilson

Mr Dutton

Mr C. Kelly

Mr Pitt

Mr T. R. Wilson

Mr Entsch

Mr Laming

Mr Porter

Mr Wood

Mr Evans

Ms M. L. Landry

Mrs Prentice

Mr Wyatt

Mr Falinski

Mr Leeser

Ms Price

Mr Zimmerman

Mr Fletcher

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.


- 10:07:48 AM

Mr Kattersought leave to move a motion. Leave not granted.


- 10:09:36 AM
Point of order, Mr Pyne.

- 10:10:17 AM

 3SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDERS MOVED

Mr Katter  moved—That so much of the standing orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Kennedy from moving the following motion forthwith—That the House:

(1)notes that:

(a)it was the National Party which deregulated the dairy industry taking the farmers income from 59c a litre down to 41c a litre;

(b)at the announcement of deregulation there were over 230 dairy farmers on the Atherton Tablelands, now there are 51;

(c)neither the ALP or LNP will introduce arbitration for farmers;

(d)for supply and demand in the free market to work there must be an unlimited number of sellers and buyers; and

(e)dairy farmers in North Queensland have only one processor to sell to and in the whole of Australia effectively only two buyers of milk—the supermarket duopoly; and

(2)therefore, condemns both sides of politics in creating misery and heartache where dairy farmers are the victims of the free market ‘fundamentalists’ in this House.


Mr Wilkie (Seconder),  10:17:04 AM. Mr Littleproud 10:17:18 AM. Mr Fitzgibbon 10:20:40 AM. Mr Joyce 10:22:53 AM. Ms Sharkie 10:27:22 AM. Mr Drum 10:29:29 AM. Mr Katter 10:32:15 AM.
- 10:35:15 AM

The time allowed by standing order 1 for debate on the motion having expired—


- 10:35:17 AM

Question—put.


- 10:35:37 AM

Division 461

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 68

Mr Albanese

Mr Conroy

Ms Kearney

Ms O’Toole

Dr Aly

Mr Danby

Ms Keay

Mr Perrett*

Mr Bandt

Mr Dick

Dr M. J. Kelly

Ms Plibersek

Ms Bird

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Keogh

Ms Rishworth

Mr Bowen

Mrs Elliot

Mr Khalil

Ms Rowland

Ms Brodtmann

Ms Ellis

Ms C. F. King

Ms Ryan*

Mr Burke

Mr Fitzgibbon

Ms M. M. H. King

Mr Shorten

Ms Burney

Dr Freelander

Ms Lamb

Ms Stanley

Mr M. C. Butler

Mr Georganas

Dr Leigh

Mr Swan

Ms T. M. Butler

Mr Giles

Ms McBride

Ms Swanson

Mr Byrne

Mr Gorman

Ms Macklin

Ms Templeman

Dr Chalmers

Mr Gosling

Mr Marles

Mr Thistlethwaite

Mr Champion

Mr Hayes

Mr B. K. Mitchell

Ms Vamvakinou

Ms L. M. Chesters

Mr Hill

Mr R. G. Mitchell

Mr Watts

Mr Clare

Mr Husic

Mr Neumann

Mr Wilkie

Ms Claydon

Mr Jones

Mr O’Connor

Mr J. H. Wilson

Ms Collins

Mr Katter

Ms O’Neil

Mr Zappia

NOES, 72

Mr Alexander

Mr Fletcher

Ms M. L. Landry

Ms Price

Mrs K. L. Andrews

Ms Flint

Mr Leeser

Mr Pyne

Mr K. J. Andrews

Mr Frydenberg

Ms Ley

Mr Ramsey*

Ms Banks

Mr Gee

Mr Littleproud

Mr Robert

Ms Bishop

Dr Gillespie

Mr McCormack

Ms Sharkie

Mr Broad

Mr Goodenough

Ms McGowan

Mr Sukkar

Mr Buchholz

Mr Hartsuyker

Dr McVeigh

Mr Taylor

Mr D. J. Chester

Mr Hastie

Mrs Marino

Mr Tehan

Mr Christensen

Mr Hawke

Mr Morrison

Mr Tudge

Mr Ciobo

Ms Henderson

Mr Morton

Mr van Manen

Mr Coleman

Mr Hogan

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr Vasta

Mr Coulton

Mr Howarth

Mr L. S. O’Brien

Mr Wallace

Mr Crewther

Mr Hunt

Mr O’Dowd

Mrs Wicks

Mr Drum*

Mr Irons

Ms O’Dwyer

Mr R. J. Wilson

Mr Dutton

Mr Joyce

Dr Phelps

Mr T. R. Wilson

Mr Entsch

Mr Keenan

Mr Pitt

Mr Wood

Mr Evans

Mr C. Kelly

Mr Porter

Mr Wyatt

Mr Falinski

Mr Laming

Mrs Prentice

Mr Zimmerman

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.


- 10:46:52 AM

 4Matter of privilege—STATEMENT BY SPEAKER

The Speaker made the following statement:  

Last Wednesday, the Manager of Opposition Business raised, as a matter of privilege, whether certain actions of the Member for Goldstein in his capacity as Chair of the House Economics Committee constitute an improper interference with the free exercise by the Committee of its authority or functions such as to amount to a contempt of the House.

The specific actions the Manager of Opposition Business referred to in this regard are:
• the apparent organising of a public hearing of the Committee at a certain place and time at the behest of a person with a vested interest in the Committee’s inquiry; and
• the authorisation of a website as the Chair of the Committee through which people could lodge a submission to the inquiry, and register to attend a public hearing of the inquiry by agreeing to be registered for a petition against the Opposition’s policy.

The Manager of Opposition Business presented several documents as supporting information, including media articles, Hansard transcripts of committee proceedings, webpage printouts and printed excerpts from audio files.

I have had the opportunity to review the matter raised by the Manager of Opposition Business and the detailed supporting information.

The task for me under the standing orders is to determine two issues.

The first is whether the matter has been raised at the earliest opportunity. The Manager of Opposition Business noted that some of the circumstances to which he has referred had only come to light very recently, and so I accept that it has been raised at the earliest opportunity.

The second is whether there is a prima facie case of contempt. There is a significant hurdle in section 4 of the Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987 as to whether a matter constitutes a contempt. To constitute a contempt conduct needs to amount, or be intended or likely to amount, to an improper interference with the free exercise by a committee of its authority or functions.

In considering these matters, as I and other Speakers have stated previously, it is important to recognise that the penal power of the House is significant and it should be exercised with restraint.

I appreciate the concerns that may have been raised by the actions of the Member for Goldstein and the actions could be seen to have caused damage to the Committee’s reputation and the reputation of the House committee system more generally. However, I do not believe that evidence has been presented to demonstrate that the Member for Goldstein’s actions have prevented the Committee in a fundamental way from continuing to fulfil its basic responsibilities in relation to its inquiry work. I therefore do not propose to give precedence to a motion to refer the matter to the Committee of Privileges and Members’ Interests.

As I have noted, while I do not believe the actions of the Member for Goldstein meet the test set out in Section 4 of the Privileges Act, I believe his actions have not always conformed with what I see as the conventions usually observed by Chairs of House committees and the practice of House committees. The particular matters I would mention include:
• having a private website ‘authorised by’, and with the badging of, the Chair of the Committee, which appeared to solicit submissions and attendees at public hearings from just one perspective; and
• apparently arranging for a public hearing of the Committee to coincide with the meeting of a group with an active interest in the Committee’s inquiry, including with the possible intention to engage in protest activity at the hearing.

As Members would be aware, it is quite properly the role of the committee secretariat to seek submissions to inquiries and make arrangements for public hearings on behalf of a committee, and committee members and other interested parties should be able to expect that these arrangements will be made without influence or interference. Inevitably political views influence some of the inquiries that committees conduct, but this shouldn’t mean that committees would not approach their task open to the evidence which may be presented and with clear and proper processes. In this case, although I am satisfied there has been the potential for interference with evidence given to the Committee, I have not been provided with material to demonstrate any interference has unduly prevented the Committee from performing its work. If there is such evidence, for example from members of the Committee itself, I would be happy to consider the matter further.

Can I also say in relation to two other matters raised by the Manager of Opposition Business that the handing out of party political material or the display of signs by individual Members at hearings of parliamentary committees should not be tolerated by Chairs.

The Manager of Opposition Business also noted that the Member for Goldstein had apparently failed to declare in a timely way on the Register of Members’ Interests that he had been a director and shareholder of a particular company. He advised that the Member for Isaacs has written to the Committee of Privileges and Members’ Interests in respect of this matter, and I will leave it to that Committee to consider this issue in line with usual practice in accordance with resolutions of this House.

The Manager of Opposition Business also raised the question of whether the Member for Goldstein is in breach of Standing Order 231 which states, in part, that “No Member may sit on a committee if he or she has a particular direct pecuniary interest in a matter under inquiry by the committee. House of Representatives Practice notes (on page 656) that this rule has been interpreted in the very narrow sense of an interest peculiar to a particular person. It states (on pages 656 and 657):

If, for example, a Member were an owner of bank shares he or she would not, for that reason alone, be under any obligation to disqualify himself or herself from serving on a committee inquiring into the banking industry, as the interest would be one held in common with many other people in the community. In the first instance it is a matter for individual committee members to judge whether they may have a conflict of interest in an inquiry.

However, House of Representatives Practice also notes (on page 149) that while no instances have occurred in the House of a Member not sitting on a committee for the reason that he or she was pecuniarily interested, Members have been advised to declare at committee meetings any matters, whether of pecuniary or other interest, where there may be, or may be perceived to be, a possible conflict of interest. I consider this to be good practice.

Finally, having mentioned the role of committee secretariats earlier in this statement, I would like to add that it is my understanding that the secretariat of the House Economics Committee has performed its role properly throughout this inquiry, acting appropriately and impartially in support of the Committee’s work and each of its Members in accordance with established practice.


- 10:54:34 AM

Mr Burke, by indulgence, made a statement on the matter.


- 10:55:05 AM

Mr T. R. Wilson, by indulgence, made a statement on the same matter.


- 10:57:32 AM

 5Civil Aviation Amendment Bill 2019

Mr McCormack (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to civil aviation, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr McCormack presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 10:57:49 AM

Mr McCormack moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 11:00:36 AM

Debate adjourned (Ms O’Neil), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 11:01:02 AM

 6Native Title Legislation Amendment Bill 2019

Mr Porter (Attorney-General), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to native title, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Porter presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 11:01:22 AM

Mr Porter moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 11:14:57 AM

Debate adjourned (Ms O’Neil), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 11:15:18 AM

 7Counter-Terrorism (Temporary Exclusion Orders) Bill 2019

Mr Dutton (Minister for Home Affairs), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to protect the community from terrorism by providing for temporary exclusion orders, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Dutton presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 11:15:49 AM

Mr Dutton moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 11:23:52 AM

Debate adjourned (Ms O’Neil), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 11:24:14 AM

 8PUBLIC WORKS—PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEEREFERENCE OF WORKFIT-OUT OF LEASED PREMISES FOR THE AUSTRALIAN FEDERAL POLICE AT 140 LONSDALE STREET, MELBOURNE, VIC

Mr Gee (Assistant Minister to the Deputy Prime Minister) for Mr Hawke (Special Minister of State), pursuant to notice, moved—That, in accordance with the provisions of the Public Works Committee Act 1969, the following proposed work be referred to the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Public Works for consideration and report: Fit-out of leased premises for the Australian Federal Police at 140 Lonsdale Street, Melbourne, Victoria.


- 11:24:58 AM

Question—put and passed.


- 11:25:08 AM

 9Treatment Benefits (Special Access) Bill 2019—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

The Deputy Speaker reported that the bill had been fully considered by the Federation Chamber, a Governor-General’s message recommending an appropriation had been reported, and the bill had been agreed to without amendment, and presented a certified copy of the bill.

Bill agreed to.


- 11:25:53 AM

On the motion of Mr Gee (Assistant Minister to the Deputy Prime Minister), by leave, the bill was read a third time.


- 11:26:34 AM

 10Treatment Benefits (Special Access) (Consequential Amendments and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2019—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

The Deputy Speaker reported that the bill had been fully considered by the Federation Chamber, a Governor-General’s message recommending an appropriation had been reported, and the bill had been agreed to without amendment, and presented a certified copy of the bill.

Bill agreed to.


- 11:27:03 AM

On the motion of Mr Gee (Assistant Minister to the Deputy Prime Minister), by leave, the bill was read a third time.


- 11:27:48 AM

 11Export Finance and Insurance Corporation Amendment (Support for Infrastructure Financing) Bill 2019—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

The Deputy Speaker reported that the Federation Chamber had been unable to complete its consideration of the bill and had returned the bill with an unresolved question (see item No. 720 February 2019, Minutes of Proceedings of the Federation Chamber), and presented a certified copy of the bill together with a schedule of the unresolved question.

Unresolved question—That the amendment be agreed to—


- 11:28:24 AM

Debate ensued.


Mr Bandt 11:28:29 AM. Mr Coulton 11:33:49 AM. Mr Bandt 11:36:19 AM.
- 11:40:24 AM

Question—put.


- 11:40:36 AM

Division 

The House divided and only Mr Bandt, Ms McGowan and Mr Wilkie voting “Aye”, the Speaker (Mr A. D. H. Smith) declared the question resolved in the negative.


- 11:46:01 AM

Bill agreed to.


- 11:46:03 AM

On the motion of Mr Coulton (Assistant Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment), by leave, the bill was read a third time.


- 11:46:49 AM

 12Migration—Joint Standing Committee—REPORTS—STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Mr Wood (Chair) presented the following documents:

Migration—Joint Standing Committee

The report of the inquiry into review processes associated with visa cancellations made on criminal grounds—Report, incorporating a dissenting report, February 2019.


- 11:46:49 AM

Report of the inquiry into efficacy of current regulation of Australian migration and education agents—Report, incorporating a dissenting report, February 2019.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the reports were made Parliamentary Papers.


Mr Wood 11:47:14 AM. Ms Vamvakinou 11:53:21 AM. Mr Wood 11:59:39 AM.
- 11:59:44 AM

Mr Wood and Ms Vamvakinou, by leave, made statements in connection with the reports.


- 12:05:59 PM

 13Petitions—Standing Committee—REPORT—STATEMENT BY MEMBER

Mrs Wicks (Chair) presented the following documents:

Petitions—Standing CommitteeYour voice can change our future: The inquiry into the future of petitioning in the House

Report, February 2019.

Minutes of proceedings.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.


Mrs Wicks 12:08:51 PM.
- 12:08:53 PM

Mrs Wicks, by leave, made statement in connection with the report.


- 12:09:00 PM

 14Tax and Revenue—Standing Committee—REPORT—STATEMENT BY MEMBER—MOTION TO TAKE NOTE OF DOCUMENT—REFERENCE TO FEDERATION CHAMBER

Mr Falinski (Chair) presented the following documents:

Tax and Revenue—Standing Committee2017 annual report of the Australian Taxation Office: Fairness, functions and frameworks—Performance review

Report, February 2019.

Minutes of proceedings.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.


Mr Falinski 12:09:25 PM.
- 12:14:13 PM

Mr Falinski, by leave, made statement in connection with the report.


- 12:14:24 PM

Mr Falinski moved—That the House take note of the report.


- 12:14:27 PM

In accordance with standing order 39, the debate was adjourned, and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 12:14:46 PM

Mr Falinski moved—That the order of the day be referred to the Federation Chamber for debate.


- 12:15:09 PM

Question—put and passed.


- 12:15:41 PM

 15Departure of Ms Bronwyn Notzon-Glenn—STATEMENT BY SPEAKER

The Speaker informed the House of the forthcoming departure of Ms Bronwyn Notzon-Glenn and thanked her for her service to the House, to Committees and to Members.


- 12:16:50 PM

 16 Future Drought Fund Bill 2018

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.


Ms Sharkie 12:17:16 PM.
- 12:27:00 PM

Document

Ms Sharkie, by leave, presented the following document:

Australian Academy of Science—Investigation of the causes of mass fish kills in the Menindee Region NSW over the summer of 2018-2019.


- 12:27:43 PM

Closure

Mr Pyne (Leader of the House) moved—That the question be now put.

Question—That the question be now put—put.


- 12:28:11 PM

Division 462

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 75

Mr Abbott

Mr Fletcher

Mr Leeser

Mr Pyne

Mrs K. L. Andrews

Ms Flint

Ms Ley

Mr Ramsey*

Mr K. J. Andrews

Mr Gee

Mr Littleproud

Mr Robert

Ms Banks

Dr Gillespie

Mr McCormack

Ms Sharkie

Ms Bishop

Mr Goodenough

Ms McGowan

Mrs Sudmalis

Mr Broad

Mr Hartsuyker

Dr McVeigh

Mr Taylor

Mr Broadbent

Mr Hastie

Mrs Marino

Mr Tehan

Mr Buchholz

Mr Hawke

Mr Morrison

Mr Tudge

Mr D. J. Chester

Ms Henderson

Mr Morton

Mr van Manen

Mr Christensen

Mr Hogan

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr Vasta

Mr Ciobo

Mr Howarth

Mr L. S. O’Brien

Mr Wallace

Mr Coleman

Mr Hunt

Mr O’Dowd

Mrs Wicks

Mr Coulton

Mr Irons

Ms O’Dwyer

Mr Wilkie

Mr Crewther

Mr Joyce

Mr Pasin

Mr R. J. Wilson

Mr Drum*

Mr Katter

Dr Phelps

Mr T. R. Wilson

Mr Dutton

Mr Keenan

Mr Pitt

Mr Wood

Mr Entsch

Mr C. Kelly

Mr Porter

Mr Wyatt

Mr Evans

Mr Laming

Mrs Prentice

Mr Zimmerman

Mr Falinski

Ms M. L. Landry

Ms Price

NOES, 66

Mr Albanese

Mr Conroy

Ms Keay

Ms O’Toole

Dr Aly

Mr Danby

Dr M. J. Kelly

Mr Perrett*

Mr Bandt

Mr Dick

Mr Keogh

Ms Plibersek

Ms Bird

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Khalil

Ms Rishworth

Mr Bowen

Mrs Elliot

Ms C. F. King

Ms Rowland

Ms Brodtmann

Ms Ellis

Ms M. M. H. King

Ms Ryan*

Mr Burke

Mr Fitzgibbon

Ms Lamb

Mr Shorten

Ms Burney

Dr Freelander

Dr Leigh

Ms Stanley

Mr M. C. Butler

Mr Georganas

Ms McBride

Mr Swan

Ms T. M. Butler

Mr Giles

Ms Macklin

Ms Swanson

Mr Byrne

Mr Gorman

Mr Marles

Ms Templeman

Dr Chalmers

Mr Gosling

Mr B. K. Mitchell

Mr Thistlethwaite

Mr Champion

Mr Hayes

Mr R. G. Mitchell

Ms Vamvakinou

Ms L. M. Chesters

Mr Hill

Mr Neumann

Mr Watts

Mr Clare

Mr Husic

Mr O’Connor

Mr J. H. Wilson

Ms Claydon

Mr Jones

Ms O’Neil

Mr Zappia

Ms Collins

Ms Kearney

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.


- 12:36:19 PM

And the question—That the bill be now read a second timebeing accordingly put


- 12:36:38 PM

Division 463

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 75

Mr Abbott

Mr Fletcher

Mr Leeser

Mr Pyne

Mrs K. L. Andrews

Ms Flint

Ms Ley

Mr Ramsey*

Mr K. J. Andrews

Mr Gee

Mr Littleproud

Mr Robert

Ms Banks

Dr Gillespie

Mr McCormack

Ms Sharkie

Ms Bishop

Mr Goodenough

Ms McGowan

Mrs Sudmalis

Mr Broad

Mr Hartsuyker

Dr McVeigh

Mr Taylor

Mr Broadbent

Mr Hastie

Mrs Marino

Mr Tehan

Mr Buchholz

Mr Hawke

Mr Morrison

Mr Tudge

Mr D. J. Chester

Ms Henderson

Mr Morton

Mr van Manen

Mr Christensen

Mr Hogan

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr Vasta

Mr Ciobo

Mr Howarth

Mr L. S. O’Brien

Mr Wallace

Mr Coleman

Mr Hunt

Mr O’Dowd

Mrs Wicks

Mr Coulton

Mr Irons

Ms O’Dwyer

Mr Wilkie

Mr Crewther

Mr Joyce

Mr Pasin

Mr R. J. Wilson

Mr Drum*

Mr Katter

Dr Phelps

Mr T. R. Wilson

Mr Dutton

Mr Keenan

Mr Pitt

Mr Wood

Mr Entsch

Mr C. Kelly

Mr Porter

Mr Wyatt

Mr Evans

Mr Laming

Mrs Prentice

Mr Zimmerman

Mr Falinski

Ms M. L. Landry

Ms Price

NOES, 66

Mr Albanese

Mr Conroy

Ms Keay

Ms O’Toole

Dr Aly

Mr Danby

Dr M. J. Kelly

Mr Perrett*

Mr Bandt

Mr Dick

Mr Keogh

Ms Plibersek

Ms Bird

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Khalil

Ms Rishworth

Mr Bowen

Mrs Elliot

Ms C. F. King

Ms Rowland

Ms Brodtmann

Ms Ellis

Ms M. M. H. King

Ms Ryan*

Mr Burke

Mr Fitzgibbon

Ms Lamb

Mr Shorten

Ms Burney

Dr Freelander

Dr Leigh

Ms Stanley

Mr M. C. Butler

Mr Georganas

Ms McBride

Mr Swan

Ms T. M. Butler

Mr Giles

Ms Macklin

Ms Swanson

Mr Byrne

Mr Gorman

Mr Marles

Ms Templeman

Dr Chalmers

Mr Gosling

Mr B. K. Mitchell

Mr Thistlethwaite

Mr Champion

Mr Hayes

Mr R. G. Mitchell

Ms Vamvakinou

Ms L. M. Chesters

Mr Hill

Mr Neumann

Mr Watts

Mr Clare

Mr Husic

Mr O’Connor

Mr J. H. Wilson

Ms Claydon

Mr Jones

Ms O’Neil

Mr Zappia

Ms Collins

Ms Kearney

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.


- 12:38:50 PM

—bill read a second time.


- 12:38:59 PM

Message from the Governor-General

Message No. 24326 November 2018, from His Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.


- 12:39:23 PM

Consideration in detail

Bill, by leave, taken as a whole.


- 12:39:26 PM

On the motion of Ms McGowan, by leave, amendments (1) to (10) were made together, after debate.


Mr Fitzgibbon 12:43:55 PM. Mr Albanese 12:47:43 PM. Mr Littleproud 12:50:00 PM. Ms Sharkie 12:51:24 PM.
- 12:54:26 PM

Question—That the bill, as amended, be agreed to—put.


- 12:54:50 PM

Division 464

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 74

Mr Abbott

Mr Fletcher

Ms Ley

Mr Ramsey*

Mr Alexander

Ms Flint

Mr Littleproud

Mr Robert

Mrs K. L. Andrews

Mr Gee

Mr McCormack

Ms Sharkie

Mr K. J. Andrews

Dr Gillespie

Ms McGowan

Mrs Sudmalis

Ms Banks

Mr Goodenough

Dr McVeigh

Mr Sukkar

Ms Bishop

Mr Hartsuyker

Mrs Marino

Mr Taylor

Mr Broad

Mr Hastie

Mr Morrison

Mr Tehan

Mr Broadbent

Mr Hawke

Mr Morton

Mr Tudge

Mr Buchholz

Ms Henderson

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr van Manen

Mr D. J. Chester

Mr Hogan

Mr L. S. O’Brien

Mr Vasta

Mr Christensen

Mr Hunt

Mr O’Dowd

Mr Wallace

Mr Ciobo

Mr Irons

Ms O’Dwyer

Mrs Wicks

Mr Coleman

Mr Joyce

Mr Pasin

Mr Wilkie

Mr Coulton

Mr Katter

Mr Pitt

Mr R. J. Wilson

Mr Crewther

Mr Keenan

Mr Porter

Mr T. R. Wilson

Mr Drum*

Mr C. Kelly

Mrs Prentice

Mr Wood

Mr Dutton

Mr Laming

Ms Price

Mr Wyatt

Mr Entsch

Ms M. L. Landry

Mr Pyne

Mr Zimmerman

Mr Falinski

Mr Leeser

NOES, 67

Mr Albanese

Mr Conroy

Ms Keay

Mr Perrett*

Dr Aly

Mr Danby

Dr M. J. Kelly

Dr Phelps

Mr Bandt

Mr Dick

Mr Keogh

Ms Plibersek

Ms Bird

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Khalil

Ms Rishworth

Mr Bowen

Mrs Elliot

Ms C. F. King

Ms Rowland

Ms Brodtmann

Ms Ellis

Ms M. M. H. King

Ms Ryan*

Mr Burke

Mr Fitzgibbon

Ms Lamb

Mr Shorten

Ms Burney

Dr Freelander

Dr Leigh

Ms Stanley

Mr M. C. Butler

Mr Georganas

Ms McBride

Mr Swan

Ms T. M. Butler

Mr Giles

Ms Macklin

Ms Swanson

Mr Byrne

Mr Gorman

Mr Marles

Ms Templeman

Dr Chalmers

Mr Gosling

Mr B. K. Mitchell

Mr Thistlethwaite

Mr Champion

Mr Hayes

Mr R. G. Mitchell

Ms Vamvakinou

Ms L. M. Chesters

Mr Hill

Mr Neumann

Mr Watts

Mr Clare

Mr Husic

Mr O’Connor

Mr J. H. Wilson

Ms Claydon

Mr Jones

Ms O’Neil

Mr Zappia

Ms Collins

Ms Kearney

Ms O’Toole

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.


- 1:01:31 PM

Bill, as amended, agreed to.

Consideration in detail concluded.


- 1:01:50 PM

On the motion of Mr Taylor (Minister for Energy), by leave, the bill was read a third time.


- 1:02:40 PM

Ms Brodtmannmade a valedictory.


- 1:30:28 PM

 17MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS

Members’ statements were made.


Ms O’Toole 1:30:33 PM. Mr C. Kelly 1:32:00 PM. Mr Dick 1:33:32 PM. Mr Laming 1:34:59 PM. Mr Gorman 1:36:31 PM. Mr Leeser 1:38:08 PM. Ms Ryan 1:39:38 PM. Dr McVeigh 1:41:10 PM. Ms Banks 1:42:50 PM. Mr O’Dowd 1:44:14 PM. Mr Watts 1:45:36 PM. Mr Morton 1:47:09 PM. Mr Perrett 1:48:39 PM. Mr Pasin 1:50:10 PM. Ms Templeman 1:51:48 PM. Mr L. S. O’Brien 1:53:21 PM. Ms Lamb 1:54:59 PM. Mrs Marino 1:56:26 PM. Mr Jones 1:58:01 PM. Mr Ted O’Brien 1:59:39 PM.
- 2:01:28 PM

 18QUESTIONS


- 2:01:38 PM

 (1)Dr Chalmers to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)


Point of order, Mr Burke. 2:03:29 PM. Mr Morrison 2:04:23 PM.
- 2:05:50 PM

 (2)Mr Goodenough to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)


- 2:09:27 PM

 (3)Dr Chalmers to Mr Pyne (Minister for Defence)


- 2:14:02 PM

 (4)Mr O’Dowd to Mr McCormack (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development)


- 2:17:43 PM

 (5)Dr Chalmers to Mr Pyne (Minister for Defence)


- 2:21:33 PM

 (6)Mr Wilkie to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)


Mr Frydenberg 2:22:29 PM.
- 2:25:00 PM

 (7)Mr Entsch to Mr Frydenberg (Treasurer)


- 2:28:23 PM

 (8)Dr Chalmers to Mr Pyne (Minister for Defence)


- 2:29:12 PM

 (9)Mr Hastie to Mr Porter (Attorney-General)


- 2:32:47 PM

 (10)Dr Chalmers to Mr Pyne (Minister for Defence)


Point of order, Mr Pyne. 2:33:29 PM. Mr Pyne 2:35:21 PM.
- 2:35:40 PM

 (11)Mrs Wicks to Ms O’Dwyer (Minister for Jobs and Industrial Relations)


- 2:39:13 PM

 (12)Dr Chalmers to Mr Pyne (Minister for Defence)


- 2:40:41 PM

 (13)Mrs Prentice to Mr Dutton (Minister for Home Affairs)


- 2:41:30 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.42 pm the Member for Bruce (Mr Hill) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for continuing to interject after a warning had been given by the Chair and he accordingly left the Chamber.


- 2:41:42 PM

Questions without notice continuing—


Mr Dutton 2:41:50 PM.
- 2:43:31 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.43 pm the Member for Moreton (Mr Perrett) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for continuing to interject after a warning had been given by the Chair and he accordingly left the Chamber.


- 2:43:45 PM

Questions without notice continuing—


Mr Dutton 2:43:50 PM.
- 2:44:22 PM

 (14)Dr Chalmers to Mr Porter (Attorney-General)


- 2:45:08 PM

 (15)Mr Ted O’Brien to Mr Taylor (Minister for Energy)


- 2:49:03 PM

 (16)Dr Chalmers to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)


- 2:49:57 PM

 (17)Mr Crewther to Mr Coleman (Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs)


- 2:53:20 PM

 (18)Mr Shorten to Mr Pyne (Minister for Defence)


Point of order, Mr Burke. 2:54:34 PM. Mr Pyne 2:55:22 PM.
- 2:58:16 PM

 (19)Mr K. J. Andrews to Mr Frydenberg (Treasurer)


- 3:01:48 PM

Suspension of standing orders moved

Mr Shorten (Leader of the Opposition) moved—That so much of the standing orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Maribyrnong from moving the following motion forthwith—That the House:

(1)notes that:

(a)the Finance Minister abolished the Labor Government’s travel panel and made it compulsory for all Government travel to be booked through Helloworld companies;

(b)the Finance Minister received free flights to Singapore from Helloworld just before it was awarded a multimillion dollar whole-of-government contract by the Minister’s own Department;

(c)the CEO of Helloworld and one of its largest shareholders, Mr Andrew Burnes, is the Liberal Party Treasurer;

(d)the US Ambassador Joe Hockey helped Helloworld lobby for Embassy travel arrangements but Embassy staff weren't aware of Mr Hockey’s million dollar Helloworld shareholding when he directed them to set up a meeting with a Helloworld company, a meeting which Mr Hockey personally attended;

(e)DFAT officials in Australia weren’t told about Mr Hockey’s conflict of interest until after the meeting and Mr Hockey didn't list his million dollar Helloworld shareholding on his DFAT register of interests until the month after that meeting;

(f)explosive Estimates evidence today confirms that the meetings was arranged because, in the words of Mr Andrew Burnes, “Hockey owes me”; and

(g)these are just the latest examples of Members in this Government acting as if they are above the rules and treating taxpayers’ money as their own, including the:

(i)Helloworld scandal;

(ii)Paladin scandal;

(iii)unlawful tipping off an Australian Federal Police raid;

(iv)use of Ministerial authority to assist Liberal Party donors;

(v)treatment of a parliamentary committee as if it were a branch of the Liberal Party; and

(vi)use of a Members’ position to promote their own commercial interests; and

(2)therefore, condemns Members of this Government for acting as though they are above the rules and treating taxpayers’ money as their own.


- 3:12:04 PM

Debate ensued.


Mr Morrison 3:12:10 PM. Dr Chalmers 3:22:27 PM. Point of order, Mr Pyne. 3:25:04 PM. Dr Chalmers 3:25:15 PM.
- 3:27:40 PM

The time allowed by standing order 1 for debate on the motion having expired—


- 3:27:42 PM

Question—put.


- 3:27:44 PM

Division 465

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 65

Mr Albanese

Mr Conroy

Ms Keay

Ms O’Toole

Dr Aly

Mr Danby

Dr M. J. Kelly

Ms Plibersek

Mr Bandt

Mr Dick

Mr Keogh

Ms Rishworth

Ms Bird

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Khalil

Ms Rowland

Mr Bowen

Mrs Elliot

Ms C. F. King

Ms Ryan*

Ms Brodtmann

Ms Ellis

Ms M. M. H. King

Mr Shorten

Mr Burke

Mr Fitzgibbon

Ms Lamb

Ms Stanley

Ms Burney

Dr Freelander

Dr Leigh

Mr Swan

Mr M. C. Butler

Mr Georganas

Ms McBride

Ms Swanson

Ms T. M. Butler

Mr Giles

Ms Macklin

Ms Templeman

Mr Byrne

Mr Gorman

Mr Marles

Mr Thistlethwaite

Dr Chalmers

Mr Gosling

Mr B. K. Mitchell

Ms Vamvakinou

Mr Champion

Mr Hayes*

Mr R. G. Mitchell

Mr Watts

Ms L. M. Chesters

Mr Husic

Mr Neumann

Mr Wilkie

Mr Clare

Mr Jones

Mr O’Connor

Mr J. H. Wilson

Ms Claydon

Ms Kearney

Ms O’Neil

Mr Zappia

Ms Collins

NOES, 69

Mr Abbott

Mr Falinski

Mr Laming

Mrs Prentice

Mr Alexander

Mr Fletcher

Ms M. L. Landry

Ms Price

Mrs K. L. Andrews

Ms Flint

Mr Leeser

Mr Pyne

Mr K. J. Andrews

Mr Frydenberg

Ms Ley

Mr Ramsey*

Ms Bishop

Mr Gee

Mr Littleproud

Mr Robert

Mr Broad

Dr Gillespie

Mr McCormack

Mrs Sudmalis

Mr Broadbent

Mr Goodenough

Dr McVeigh

Mr Sukkar

Mr Buchholz

Mr Hartsuyker

Mrs Marino

Mr Taylor

Mr D. J. Chester

Mr Hastie

Mr Morrison

Mr Tudge

Mr Christensen

Mr Hawke

Mr Morton

Mr van Manen

Mr Ciobo

Ms Henderson

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr Vasta

Mr Coleman

Mr Hogan

Mr L. S. O’Brien

Mrs Wicks

Mr Coulton

Mr Hunt

Mr O’Dowd

Mr R. J. Wilson

Mr Crewther

Mr Irons

Ms O’Dwyer

Mr T. R. Wilson

Mr Drum*

Mr Joyce

Mr Pasin

Mr Wood

Mr Dutton

Mr Keenan

Mr Pitt

Mr Wyatt

Mr Entsch

Mr C. Kelly

Mr Porter

Mr Zimmerman

Mr Evans

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.


- 3:37:59 PM

Questions without notice concluded.


- 3:38:10 PM

 19Selection Committee

The Speaker presented the following document:

Report No. 36 relating to the consideration of bills introduced 18 February to 21 February 2019.


- 3:38:24 PM

 20Auditor-General’s Report

The Speaker presented the following document:

Auditor-General—Audit report No. 28 of 2018-19—Management of Smart Centre's Centrelink telephone services—Follow-up: Department of Human Services.

In accordance with the resolution agreed to on 28 March 2018, the document was made a Parliamentary Paper.


- 3:39:06 PM

 21DOCUMENTS 

The following documents were presented: 

Aboriginal Land Commissioner—Report on review of detriment: Aboriginal Land Claims recommended for grant but not yet finalised, December 2018.

Migration Act 1958—Section 486O—Assessment of detention arrangements—Personal identifier 1001305-O2, 1002215-O1, 1002234-O1, 1002405-O2, 1002463-O2, 1002480-O2, 1002553-O2, 1002676-O1, 1002801-O1, 1002811-O1, 1002850-O, 1002855-O, 1002859-O, 1002867-O, 1002899-O, 1002903-O, 1002918-O, 1002932-O, 1002935-O, 2000011-O1, 1000030-O2, 1000034-O2, 1000267-O2, 1000785-O2, 1000967-O2, 1001613-O2, 1001818-O2, 1001929-O2, 1002118-O2, 1002151-O2, 1002167-O2, 1002248-O2, 1000023-O2, 1001113-O2, 1001379-O2, 1001519-O3, 1001647-O2, 1001981-O2, 1002163-O2, 1002608-O1, 1002726-O1, 1002797-O1, 1002813-O1, 1002815-O1, 1002900-O, 1002905-O, 1002906-O, 1002907-O, 1002922-O, 1002926-O, 1002928-O, 1002936-O—

Commonwealth and Immigration Ombudsman’s reports—Report No. 2 of 2019.

Government response to Ombudsman’s reports.

National Broadband Network—Joint Standing Committee—The rollout of the NBN in rural and regional areas—Second report of the 45th Parliament—Government response, February 2019.

*Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979—Commonwealth Ombudsman’s monitoring of agency access to stored communications and telecommunications data—Report for 2016-17.

*In accordance with the resolution agreed to on 28 March 2018, the documents were made Parliamentary Papers.


- 3:39:30 PM

Ms Bishopmade a statement, by indulgence, on the retiring as the Member for Curtin.


- 3:48:04 PM

Mr Morrison (Prime Minister), by indulgence, made a statement on the same matter.


- 3:49:47 PM

Mr Shorten, by indulgence, made a statement on the same matter.


- 3:53:25 PM

 22Document

The Speaker presented the following document:

Statement by the Speaker on the APH entrances.


- 3:53:44 PM

 23DISCUSSION OF MATTER OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE—Education

The House was informed that Ms Plibersek (Deputy Leader of the Opposition) and Mr Katter had proposed that definite matters of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion today. In accordance with the provisions of standing order 46, the Speaker had given priority to the matter proposed by Ms Plibersek, namely, “The Government’s failure to properly invest in education and Australia’s children”.


- 3:53:50 PM

The proposed discussion having received the necessary support—


- 3:54:07 PM

Ms Plibersek addressed the House.


- 4:04:10 PM

Discussion ensued.


Mr Tehan 4:04:14 PM. Ms Rishworth 4:14:15 PM. Ms Henderson 4:19:34 PM. Mr Giles 4:24:22 PM. Mr Leeser 4:29:24 PM.
- 4:30:08 PM

Mr Leeser addressing the House—


- 4:30:17 PM

 24ADJOURNMENT

It being 4.30 pm—The question was proposed—That the House do now adjourn.

Debate ensued.


Dr Freelander 4:30:24 PM. Mr Broadbent 4:35:13 PM. Mr Albanese 4:40:21 PM. Mr Crewther 4:45:26 PM. Mr Giles 4:50:00 PM. Mr Drum 4:54:45 PM.
- 4:59:49 PM

The House continuing to sit until 5 pm—The Speaker adjourned the House until 12 noon on Tuesday, 2 April 2019.


- 5:00:03 PM

DOCUMENTS 

 The following documents were deemed to have been presented on 21 February 2019 (An explanatory statement has been presented with each instrument unless otherwise indicated by an asterisk)

 Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999—Threat abatement plan for disease in natural ecosystems caused by Phytophthora cinnamomi (2018) [F2019L00157].

Industry Research and Development Act 1986—Industry Research and Development (Antarctic Science Collaboration Initiative Program) Instrument 2019 [F2019L00154].

National Health Act 1953—National Health (Weighted average disclosed priceApril 2019 reduction day) Amendment Determination 2019—PB 9 of 2019 [F2019L00156].

Private Health Insurance Act 2007—Private Health Insurance (Prostheses) Rules 2019 (No. 1) [F2019L00155].

Taxation Administration Act 1953

Commissioner of Taxation—

Class Rulings—

CR 2016/37 (Addendum).

CR 2019/14, CR 2019/15, CR 2019/16.

Goods and Services Tax Ruling—GSTR 2003/15 (Addendum).

Taxation Ruling—TR 2013/3 (Addendum).

Commissioner’s annual report on the operation of the working holiday maker framework for the period 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018.


- 5:00:16 PM

ATTENDANCE

All Members attended (at some time during the sitting) except Mr HartMs HusarMr C. A. S. LaundyMs Owens and Mr Snowdon.


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