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No. 96

Thursday, 30 November 2023

- 9:00:11 AM

1The House met, at 9 am, pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker (the Honourable M. Dick) took the Chair, made an acknowledgement of country and read Prayers.

- 9:01:20 AM

2STATEMENT ON A SIGNIFICANT MATTER—International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women

Mrs Elliot (Assistant Minister for the Prevention of Family Violence), pursuant to notice, made a statement in relation to the International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women.

- 9:11:54 AM

Ms Ley (Deputy Leader of the Opposition) addressed the House in reply.

- 9:18:36 AM

Mrs Elliot, by leave, moved—That further statements on the International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women be permitted in the Federation Chamber.

- 9:18:57 AM

Question—put and passed.

- 9:19:12 AM

3STATEMENT ON A SIGNIFICANT MATTER—Delivering for Australians overseas: The consular state of play

Mr Watts (Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs), pursuant to notice, made a statement in relation to delivering for Australians overseas: The consular state of play.

- 9:33:06 AM

Mr Tehan addressed the House in reply.

- 9:41:10 AM

Mr Watts, by leave, moved—That further statements on delivering for Australians overseas: The consular state of play be permitted in the Federation Chamber.

- 9:41:18 AM

Question—put and passed.

- 9:41:30 AM

4Counter-Terrorism Legislation Amendment (Prohibited Hate Symbols and Other Measures) Bill 2023—DEFERRED DIVISION

The order of the day having been read for the further consideration in detail of the bill—

The following question, on which a division had been called for and deferred in accordance with standing order 133, was put—

Question—That the amendment be agreed to (see item No. 24, Votes and Proceedings, 29 November 2023).

- 9:42:10 AM

Division 260

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 61

Mrs Andrews	Mr Gee	Mrs Marino	Mr Sukkar
Mrs Archer	Dr Haines	Mr Morrison	Mr Taylor
Ms Bell	Mr Hamilton	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Tehan
Mr Birrell	Mr Hastie	Mr L O’Brien	Mr Thompson
Mr Boyce	Mr Hawke	Mr Pasin	Ms Tink
Mr Broadbent	Mr Hogan	Mr Pearce	Mr Vasta
Mr Buchholz	Mr Howarth	Mr Pike	Mr Violi
Mr Caldwell	Ms Landry	Mr Pitt	Mr Wallace
Ms Chaney	Ms Le	Mr Ramsey*	Ms Ware
Mr Chester	Mr Leeser	Dr M Ryan	Dr Webster
Mr Conaghan	Ms Ley	Dr Scamps	Mr Wilkie
Mr Coulton*	Mr Littleproud	Ms Sharkie	Mr Willcox
Ms Daniel	Mr McCormack	Ms Spender	Mr R Wilson
Mr Dutton	Mrs McIntosh	Ms Steggall	Mr Wolahan
Mr Entsch	Ms McKenzie	Mr Stevens	Mr Young
Mr Fletcher

NOES, 76

Mr Albanese	Mr Conroy	Mr Laxale	Dr Reid
Dr Aly	Ms Doyle	Dr Leigh	Mr Repacholi
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Mr Dreyfus	Mr Lim	Ms Rishworth
Mr Bandt	Mrs Elliot	Ms McBain	Ms Roberts
Mr Bates	Ms Fernando	Ms McBride	Ms Rowland
Mr Bowen	Dr Freelander	Mr Marles	Ms J Ryan
Mr Burke	Dr Garland	Ms Mascarenhas	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Burnell	Mr Giles	Ms Miller-Frost	Mr Shorten
Ms Burney	Mr Gorman	Mr B Mitchell	Ms Sitou
Mr Burns	Mr Gosling	Mr R Mitchell	Mr Smith*
Mr Butler	Mr Hill	Dr Mulino	Ms Stanley*
Ms Byrnes	Mr Husic	Mr Neumann	Ms Swanson
Dr Chalmers	Mr Jones	Mr O’Connor	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Charlton	Ms Kearney	Ms O’Neil	Ms Thwaites
Ms Chesters	Mr Keogh	Ms Payne	Ms Watson-Brown
Mr Clare	Mr Khalil	Mr Perrett	Mr Watts
Ms Claydon	Ms C King	Mrs Phillips	Ms Wells
Ms Coker	Ms M. M. H. King	Ms Plibersek	Mr J Wilson
Ms Collins	Ms Lawrence	Mr Rae	Mr Zappia

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 9:50:07 AM

Bill, as amended, agreed to.

Consideration in detail concluded.

- 9:50:20 AM

On the motion of Mr Dreyfus (Attorney-General), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 9:50:58 AM

5AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENTARY DELEGATION—REPORT—STATEMENT BY SPEAKER

The Speaker presented the following document:

Australian Parliamentary Delegation to Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories, 16 to 21 July 2023—Report, November 2023.

- 9:51:00 AM

The Speaker made a statement in connection with the report.

- 9:53:37 AM

6Defence Trade Controls Amendment Bill 2023

Mr Marles (Minister for Defence), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Defence Trade Controls Act 2012, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Marles presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:54:12 AM

Mr Marles moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 10:02:18 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Taylor), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 10:03:01 AM

7Modern Slavery Amendment (Australian Anti-Slavery Commissioner) Bill 2023

Mr Dreyfus (Attorney-General), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Modern Slavery Act 2018, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Dreyfus presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 10:03:03 AM

Mr Dreyfus moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 10:11:28 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Tehan), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 10:12:15 AM

8National Security Legislation Amendment (Comprehensive Review and Other Measures No. 3) Bill 2023

Ms O’Neil (Minister for Home Affairs), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to national security and intelligence services, and for related purposes.

Document

Ms O’Neil presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 10:12:18 AM

Ms O’Neil moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 10:19:25 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Tehan), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 10:20:10 AM

9Customs Tariff Amendment (Incorporation of Proposals) Bill (No. 2) 2023

Ms O’Neil (Minister for Home Affairs) presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Customs Tariff Act 1995, and for related purposes.

Document

Ms O’Neil presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 10:20:16 AM

Ms O’Neil moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 10:25:42 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Tehan), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 10:26:18 AM

10Treasury Laws Amendment (Better Targeted Superannuation Concessions and Other Measures) Bill 2023

Mr Jones (Assistant Treasurer) presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to charities, the Financial Regulator Assessment Authority, financial services, payment systems and taxation, to make miscellaneous and technical amendments of the statute law of the Commonwealth, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Jones presented an explanatory memorandum to this bill and the Superannuation (Better Targeted Superannuation Concessions) Imposition Bill 2023.

Bill read a first time.

- 10:26:43 AM

Mr Jones moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 10:35:17 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Tehan), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 10:35:49 AM

11Superannuation (Better Targeted Superannuation Concessions) Imposition Bill 2023

Mr Jones (Assistant Treasurer) presented a Bill for an Act to impose tax on certain superannuation earnings, and for related purposes.

Bill read a first time.

- 10:35:52 AM

Mr Jones moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 10:36:34 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Tehan), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 10:37:19 AM

12Help to Buy Bill 2023

Ms Collins (Minister for Housing), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to provide for Housing Australia to enter into shared equity arrangements on behalf of the Commonwealth to improve housing outcomes for Australians, and for other purposes.

Document

Ms Collins presented an explanatory memorandum to this bill and the Help to Buy (Consequential Provisions) Bill 2023.

Bill read a first time.

- 10:37:24 AM

Ms Collins moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 10:46:24 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Tehan), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 10:47:06 AM

13Help to Buy (Consequential Provisions) Bill 2023

Ms Collins (Minister for Housing), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to deal with consequential matters arising from the enactment of the Help to Buy Act 2023, and for related purposes.

Bill read a first time.

- 10:47:08 AM

Ms Collins moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 10:47:38 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Tehan), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 10:47:58 AM

14Department of Defence—Defence fuel transformation program—Tranche 2 facilities project—APPROVAL OF WORK

Dr Leigh (Assistant Minister for Competition, Charities and Treasury), pursuant to notice, moved—That, in accordance with the provisions of the Public Works Committee Act 1969, it is expedient to carry out the following proposed work which was referred to the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Public Works and on which the committee has duly reported to Parliament: Department of Defence—Defence fuel transformation program—Tranche 2 facilities project.

- 10:49:48 AM

Question—put and passed.

- 10:50:07 AM

15Economic Inclusion Advisory Committee Bill 2023

The order of the day having been read for the further consideration in detail of the bill, and on the amendments moved by Mr Wilkie (see item No. 11, Votes and Proceedings, 29 November 2023)—

- 10:50:19 AM

Debate resumed.

Mr Wilkie, 10:50:25 AM.

- 10:54:10 AM

Question—That the amendments be agreed to—put.

- 10:54:31 AM

Division 261

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 14

Mr Bandt	Dr Haines	Ms Sharkie	Ms Tink*
Mr Bates	Mr Katter	Ms Spender	Ms Watson-Brown
Ms Chaney	Dr M Ryan	Ms Steggall	Mr Wilkie*
Ms Daniel	Dr Scamps

NOES, 64

Dr Aly	Mrs Elliot	Ms Mascarenhas	Ms Roberts
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Ms Fernando	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Rowland
Mr Bowen	Dr Freelander	Mr B Mitchell	Ms J Ryan
Mr Broadbent	Dr Garland	Mr R Mitchell	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Burnell	Mr Giles	Dr Mulino	Ms Sitou
Ms Burney	Mr Gorman	Mr Neumann	Mr Smith*
Mr Burns	Mr Hill	Mr L O’Brien	Ms Stanley*
Ms Byrnes	Mr Husic	Mr O’Connor	Ms Swanson
Dr Charlton	Ms Kearney	Ms Payne	Mr Tehan
Ms Chesters	Mr Keogh	Mr Perrett	Mr Thistlethwaite
Ms Claydon	Mr Khalil	Mrs Phillips	Ms Thwaites
Ms Coker	Ms Lawrence	Ms Plibersek	Ms Ware
Ms Collins	Mr Laxale	Mr Rae	Mr Watts
Mr Conroy	Dr Leigh	Dr Reid	Ms Wells
Ms Doyle	Mr Lim	Mr Repacholi	Mr J Wilson
Mr Dreyfus	Ms McBride	Ms Rishworth	Mr Zappia

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 11:03:49 AM

Ms Tink, by leave, moved amendments (1) to (8) together.

- 11:09:07 AM

Debate ensued.

Ms Rishworth, 11:09:09 AM. Ms Tink, 11:13:46 AM.

- 11:16:10 AM

Question—That the amendments be agreed to—put.

- 11:16:15 AM

Division 262

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 10

Mr Bandt	Ms Daniel	Dr Scamps	Ms Watson-Brown
Mr Bates	Dr Haines	Ms Tink*	Mr Wilkie*
Ms Chaney	Dr M Ryan

NOES, 54

Dr Aly	Dr Garland	Mr R Mitchell	Ms J Ryan
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Mr Gorman	Dr Mulino	Ms Scrymgour
Mrs Andrews	Mr Gosling	Mr Neumann	Ms Sitou
Mr Burnell	Mr Hill	Mr L O’Brien	Mr Smith*
Mr Burns	Mr Husic	Ms Payne	Ms Stanley*
Dr Charlton	Ms Kearney	Mr Perrett	Ms Steggall
Ms Chesters	Mr Khalil	Mrs Phillips	Ms Swanson
Ms Claydon	Ms Lawrence	Ms Plibersek	Mr Thompson
Ms Coker	Mr Laxale	Mr Rae	Ms Thwaites
Mr Conroy	Mr Lim	Dr Reid	Ms Ware
Ms Doyle	Ms McBride	Mr Repacholi	Mr Watts
Mrs Elliot	Ms Mascarenhas	Ms Rishworth	Mr J Wilson
Ms Fernando	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Roberts	Mr Zappia
Dr Freelander	Mr B Mitchell

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 11:23:31 AM

Bill agreed to.

Consideration in detail concluded.

- 11:23:40 AM

On the motion of Ms Rishworth (Minister for Social Services), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 11:24:16 AM

16Workforce Australia Employment Services—Select Committee—REPORT—STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS—MOTION TO TAKE NOTE OF DOCUMENT—REFERENCE TO FEDERATION CHAMBER

Mr Hill (Chair) presented the following documents:

Workforce Australia Employment Services—Select Committee—Rebuilding employment services: Final report on Workforce Australia Employment Services—

Report, incorporating a dissenting report, November 2023.

Minutes of proceedings.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.

Mr Hill, 11:24:59 AM. Mr Broadbent, 11:38:53 AM. Ms Sharkie, 11:41:58 AM.

- 11:55:46 AM

Mr Hill, Mr Broadbent and Ms Sharkie, by leave, made statements in connection with the report.

- 11:55:50 AM

Mr Hill moved—That the House take note of the report.

- 11:56:12 AM

In accordance with standing order 39, the debate was adjourned, and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 11:56:16 AM

Mr Hill moved—That the order of the day be referred to the Federation Chamber for debate.

- 11:56:19 AM

Question—put and passed.

- 11:56:28 AM

17Industry, Science and Resources—Standing Committee—REPORT—STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Mr R Mitchell (Chair) presented the following documents:

Industry, Science and Resources—Standing Committee—Sovereign, smart, sustainable: Driving advanced manufacturing in Australia—

Report, November 2023.

Minutes of proceedings.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.

Mr R Mitchell, 11:56:42 AM. Ms Landry, 12:02:07 PM.

- 12:07:46 PM

Mr R Mitchell and Ms Landry, by leave, made statements in connection with the report.

- 12:08:05 PM

18Annual Climate Change statement 2023—MINISTERIAL STATEMENT—MOTION TO TAKE NOTE OF DOCUMENT—REFERENCE TO FEDERATION CHAMBER

Mr Bowen (Minister for Climate Change and Energy), by leave, made a ministerial statement relating to the annual climate change statement, and presented the following documents:

- 12:36:16 PM

Annual climate change statement to Parliament, 30 November 2023.

- 12:36:22 PM

Climate Change Act 2022—Annual Climate Change Statement 2023—Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water.

- 12:36:26 PM

Climate Change Authority—2023 annual progress report—Report, October 2023.

- 12:36:28 PM

Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water—

- 12:36:34 PM

Australia’s emissions projections 2023, November 2023.

- 12:36:35 PM

Australia’s National Greenhouse Accounts—Quarterly update of Australia’s national greenhouse gas inventory: June 2023, incorporating preliminary emissions up to September 2023.

- 12:36:44 PM

Mr Ted O’Brien addressed the House in reply.

- 1:04:50 PM

Mr Bowen moved—That the House take note of the Annual climate change statement to Parliament, 30 November 2023.

- 1:05:07 PM

Debate adjourned (Mr R Wilson), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 1:05:58 PM

Mr Bowen, by leave, moved—That the order of the day be referred to the Federation Chamber for debate.

- 1:06:30 PM

Question—put and passed.

- 1:06:49 PM

19MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE—Water Amendment (Restoring Our Rivers) Bill 2023

Message No. 228, 30 November 2023, from the Senate was reported returning the Water Amendment (Restoring Our Rivers) Bill 2023 with amendments.

- 1:07:02 PM

Ordered—That the amendments be considered immediately.

- 1:07:27 PM

Ms Plibersek (Minister for the Environment and Water) moved—That the amendments be agreed to.

- 1:12:48 PM

Debate ensued.

Mr Albanese, 1:12:50 PM. Mr Littleproud, 1:16:14 PM. Point of order, Mr B Mitchell. 1:20:00 PM. Mr Littleproud, 1:20:09 PM. Ms Ley, 1:21:32 PM.

- 1:26:32 PM

Closure

Ms Plibersek moved—That the question be now put.

Question—That the question be now put—put.

- 1:26:59 PM

Division 263

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 77

Mr Albanese	Ms Doyle	Mr Laxale	Mr Repacholi
Dr Aly	Mr Dreyfus	Dr Leigh	Ms Rishworth
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Mrs Elliot	Mr Lim	Ms Roberts
Mr Bandt	Ms Fernando	Ms McBain	Ms Rowland
Mr Bates	Dr Freelander	Ms McBride	Ms J Ryan
Mr Bowen	Dr Garland	Mr Marles	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Burke	Mr Giles	Ms Mascarenhas	Mr Shorten
Mr Burnell	Mr Gorman	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Sitou
Ms Burney	Mr Gosling	Mr B Mitchell	Mr Smith*
Mr Burns	Mr Hill	Mr R Mitchell	Ms Stanley*
Mr Butler	Mr Husic	Mr Neumann	Ms Swanson
Ms Byrnes	Mr Jones	Mr O’Connor	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Chalmers	Mr Katter	Ms O’Neil	Ms Thwaites
Dr Charlton	Ms Kearney	Ms Payne	Ms Watson-Brown
Ms Chesters	Mr Keogh	Mr Perrett	Mr Watts
Mr Clare	Mr Khalil	Mrs Phillips	Ms Wells
Ms Claydon	Ms C King	Ms Plibersek	Mr Wilkie
Ms Coker	Ms M. M. H. King	Mr Rae	Mr J Wilson
Ms Collins	Ms Lawrence	Dr Reid	Mr Zappia
Mr Conroy

NOES, 61

Mrs Andrews	Mr Gee	Ms McKenzie	Mr Stevens
Mrs Archer	Mr Goodenough	Mrs Marino	Mr Sukkar
Ms Bell	Dr Haines	Mr Morrison	Mr Taylor
Mr Birrell	Mr Hamilton	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Tehan
Mr Boyce	Mr Hastie	Mr L O’Brien	Mr Thompson
Mr Broadbent	Mr Hawke	Mr Pasin	Ms Tink
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hogan	Mr Pearce	Mr Vasta
Mr Caldwell	Mr Howarth	Mr Pike	Mr Violi
Ms Chaney	Ms Landry	Mr Pitt	Mr Wallace
Mr Chester	Ms Le	Ms Price	Ms Ware
Mr Conaghan	Mr Leeser	Mr Ramsey*	Dr Webster
Mr Coulton*	Ms Ley	Dr M Ryan	Mr Willcox
Ms Daniel	Mr Littleproud	Dr Scamps	Mr R Wilson
Mr Dutton	Mr McCormack	Ms Sharkie	Mr Wolahan
Mr Entsch	Mrs McIntosh	Ms Steggall	Mr Young
Mr Fletcher

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 1:34:40 PM

And the question—That the amendments be agreed to—being accordingly put—

- 1:35:06 PM

Division 264

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 86

Mr Albanese	Ms Doyle	Dr Leigh	Ms Rowland
Dr Aly	Mr Dreyfus	Mr Lim	Ms J Ryan
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Mrs Elliot	Ms McBain	Dr M Ryan
Mr Bandt	Ms Fernando	Ms McBride	Dr Scamps
Mr Bates	Dr Freelander	Mr Marles	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Bowen	Dr Garland	Ms Mascarenhas	Ms Sharkie
Mr Burke	Mr Giles	Ms Miller-Frost	Mr Shorten
Mr Burnell	Mr Gorman	Mr B Mitchell	Ms Sitou
Ms Burney	Mr Gosling	Mr R Mitchell	Mr Smith*
Mr Burns	Dr Haines	Mr Neumann	Ms Stanley*
Mr Butler	Mr Hill	Mr O’Connor	Ms Steggall
Ms Byrnes	Mr Husic	Ms O’Neil	Ms Swanson
Dr Chalmers	Mr Jones	Ms Payne	Mr Thistlethwaite
Ms Chaney	Mr Katter	Mr Perrett	Ms Thwaites
Dr Charlton	Ms Kearney	Mrs Phillips	Ms Tink
Ms Chesters	Mr Keogh	Ms Plibersek	Ms Watson-Brown
Mr Clare	Mr Khalil	Mr Rae	Mr Watts
Ms Claydon	Ms C King	Dr Reid	Ms Wells
Ms Coker	Ms M. M. H. King	Mr Repacholi	Mr Wilkie
Ms Collins	Ms Lawrence	Ms Rishworth	Mr J Wilson
Mr Conroy	Mr Laxale	Ms Roberts	Mr Zappia
Ms Daniel	Ms Le

NOES, 52

Mrs Andrews	Mr Fletcher	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Sukkar
Mrs Archer	Mr Gee	Ms McKenzie	Mr Taylor
Ms Bell	Mr Goodenough	Mrs Marino	Mr Tehan
Mr Birrell	Mr Hamilton	Mr Morrison	Mr Thompson
Mr Boyce	Mr Hastie	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Vasta
Mr Broadbent	Mr Hawke	Mr L O’Brien	Mr Violi
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hogan	Mr Pasin	Mr Wallace
Mr Caldwell	Mr Howarth	Mr Pearce	Ms Ware
Mr Chester	Ms Landry	Mr Pike	Dr Webster
Mr Conaghan	Mr Leeser	Mr Pitt	Mr Willcox
Mr Coulton*	Ms Ley	Ms Price	Mr R Wilson
Mr Dutton	Mr Littleproud	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Wolahan
Mr Entsch	Mr McCormack	Mr Stevens	Mr Young

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 1:38:18 PM

20MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS

Members’ statements were made.

Mr Hamilton, 1:38:25 PM. Mr Lim, 1:39:49 PM. Mr Hawke, 1:41:25 PM. Ms Fernando, 1:42:59 PM. Ms Steggall, 1:44:14 PM. Ms Mascarenhas, 1:45:41 PM. Mr Bandt, 1:47:15 PM. Dr Reid, 1:48:46 PM. Mr Hogan, 1:50:14 PM. Mr Burnell, 1:51:44 PM. Mr Howarth, 1:53:13 PM. Ms Sitou, 1:54:40 PM. Mr Boyce, 1:56:04 PM. Ms Coker, 1:57:41 PM. Ms Landry, 1:59:00 PM.

- 2:00:34 PM

21DEATH OF FORMER MEMBER (the Honourable Gerard (Gerry) Leslie Hand)

Mr Albanese (Prime Minister) referred to the death of the Honourable Gerard (Gerry) Leslie Hand, and moved—That the House record its deep regret at the death, on 15 November 2023, of the Honourable Gerard (Gerry) Leslie Hand, a former Minister and Member of this House for the Division of Melbourne from 1983 to 1993, place on record its appreciation of his long and meritorious public service, and tender its profound sympathy to his family in their bereavement.

Mr Dutton, 2:07:01 PM.

- 2:10:56 PM

Mr Dutton (Leader of the Opposition) having seconded the motion and all Members present having risen, in silence—

- 2:11:21 PM

Debate adjourned (Mr Burke—Leader of the House), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 2:11:33 PM

Mr Burke declared the order of the day referred to the Federation Chamber for debate.

- 2:12:06 PM

22Death of former Member (the Honourable Bill Hayden)—CONDOLENCE MOTION—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

The Speaker reported that the order of the day relating to the Prime Minister’s motion of condolence in connection with the Honourable Bill Hayden AC had been debated in the Federation Chamber and returned to the House, and presented a certified copy of the motion.

All Members present having risen, in silence—Motion agreed to.

- 2:12:25 PM

23QUESTIONS

- 2:12:33 PM

(1)Mr Dutton to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

- 2:14:59 PM

(2)Mr Burns to Ms Collins (Minister for Housing)

- 2:18:15 PM

Distinguished visitor announced.

- 2:18:35 PM

(3)Mr Littleproud to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

Point of order, Mr Littleproud. 2:22:29 PM. Mr Albanese, 2:23:17 PM.

- 2:25:18 PM

(4)Ms Fernando to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

- 2:28:53 PM

(5)Mr Bandt to Mr Bowen (Minister for Climate Change and Energy)

- 2:32:00 PM

(6)Ms J Ryan to Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)

- 2:35:32 PM

Distinguished visitor announced.

- 2:35:51 PM

(7)Mr Tehan to Mr Giles (Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs)

- 2:37:10 PM

(8)Dr Mulino to Mr Burke (Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations)

- 2:41:00 PM

(9)Mr Tehan to Mr Giles (Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs)

- 2:43:33 PM

(10)Ms Miller-Frost to Ms Plibersek (Minister for the Environment and Water)

- 2:46:11 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.46 pm the Member for Barker (Mr Pasin) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for continuing to interject after a warning had been given by the Chair and he accordingly left the Chamber.

- 2:46:13 PM

Questions without notice continued.

Ms Plibersek, 2:46:15 PM.

- 2:47:31 PM

Mr Dutton (Leader of the Opposition), sought leave to move a motion. Leave not granted.

- 2:50:59 PM

Suspension of standing and sessional orders moved

Mr Dutton (Leader of the Opposition) moved—That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the Leader of the Opposition from moving the following motion immediately—tba

- 2:53:36 PM

Mr Burke (Leader of the House) required that, in accordance with standing order 47(2), further proceedings take place after the discussion of a matter of public importance.

- 2:53:38 PM

(11)Ms Roberts to Ms O’Neil (Minister for Home Affairs)

- 2:56:13 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.56 pm the Member for Fadden (Mr Caldwell) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for continuing to interject after a warning had been given by the Chair and he accordingly left the Chamber.

- 2:56:14 PM

Questions without notice continued.

Ms O’Neil, 2:56:28 PM. Point of order, Mr Sukkar. 2:57:11 PM. Mr Burke, 2:57:42 PM. Mr Sukkar, 2:58:08 PM. Mr Burke, 2:58:32 PM. Mr Dutton, 2:59:32 PM. Mr Burke, 3:00:03 PM. Mr Dutton, 3:00:54 PM. Mr Sukkar, 3:01:40 PM. Ms O’Neil, 3:03:07 PM.

- 3:04:11 PM

(12)Ms Tink to Ms C King (Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government)

- 3:06:21 PM

(13)Dr Reid to Mr Butler (Minister for Health and Aged Care)

- 3:09:48 PM

(14)Ms Ley to Mr Giles (Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs)

- 3:10:53 PM

(15)Dr Charlton to Mr O’Connor (Minister for Skills and Training)