Parliament of Australia

Draft House Minutes

No. 27

Thursday, 24 October 2019

- 9:30:21 AM

1The House met, at 9.30 am, pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker (the Honourable A. D. H. Smith) took the Chair, made an acknowledgement of country and read Prayers.

- 9:31:38 AM

2Official Development Assistance Multilateral Replenishment Obligations (Special Appropriation) Bill 2019

Mr Hawke (Minister for International Development and the Pacific) presented a Bill for an Act to appropriate money out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund for expenditure in relation to Australia’s official development assistance multilateral replenishment obligations, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Hawke presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:32:08 AM

Mr Hawke moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:36:13 AM

Debate adjourned (Dr Chalmers), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:36:25 AM

3Implementation of the National Redress Scheme—Joint Select Committee—MEMBERSHIP

The House was informed that the Chief Opposition Whip had nominated Members to be members of the Joint Select Committee on Implementation of the National Redress Scheme.

Mr Tudge (Minister for Population, Cities and Urban Infrastructure), by leave, moved—That Ms Claydon and Mr Dick be appointed members of the Joint Select Committee on Implementation of the National Redress Scheme.

Question—put and passed.

- 9:37:40 AM

4Education Legislation Amendment (Tuition Protection and Other Measures) Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—And on the amendment moved thereto by Ms Kearney, viz.—That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

“whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House notes that:

(1)the Government has:

(a)damaged the quality of Australia’s world-class higher education and vocational training system;

(b)cut funding to TAFE and training;

(c)let apprentice numbers fall; and

(d)presided over a national shortage in skilled tradespeople; and

(2)Australians deserve excellent TAFEs and universities and the Government has gutted both”—

Debate resumed.

Mr Tudge, 9:37:59 AM.

- 9:39:35 AM

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.

- 9:39:45 AM

Division 96

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 64

Mr Albanese	Mr Dreyfus	Ms M. M. H. King	Ms Rishworth†
Dr Aly	Mrs Elliot	Dr Leigh	Ms Rowland
Mr Bandt	Mr Fitzgibbon	Ms McBride	Ms Ryan*
Ms Bird	Dr Freelander	Mr Marles	Mr Shorten
Mr Bowen	Mr Georganas	Mr B. K. Mitchell	Mr D. P. B. Smith
Mr Burke	Mr Giles	Mr R. G. Mitchell	Mr Snowdon
Mr Burns	Mr Gorman	Dr Mulino	Ms Stanley*
Mr M. C. Butler	Mr Gosling	Ms Murphy	Ms Swanson
Ms T. M. Butler	Mr Hayes	Mr Neumann	Ms Templeman
Mr Byrne	Mr Hill	Mr O’Connor	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Chalmers	Mr Husic	Ms O’Neil	Ms Thwaites
Ms L. M. Chesters	Mr Jones	Ms Owens	Mr Watts
Mr Clare	Ms Kearney	Ms Payne	Ms Wells
Ms Claydon	Mr Keogh	Mr Perrett	Mr Wilkie
Ms Collins	Mr Khalil	Mrs Phillips	Mr J. H. Wilson
Mr Dick	Ms C. F. King	Ms Plibersek	Mr Zappia

NOES, 76

Mr Alexander	Mr Frydenberg	Ms Liu	Mr Sharma
Dr Allen	Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Mr Simmonds
Mr K. J. Andrews	Dr Gillespie	Mrs McIntosh	Ms Steggall
Mrs Archer	Mr Goodenough	Dr McVeigh	Mr Stevens
Ms Bell	Dr Haines	Mrs Marino	Mr Sukkar
Mr Broadbent	Ms Hammond	Dr Martin	Mr Taylor
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hastie	Mr Morrison	Mr Tehan
Mr D. J. Chester	Mr Hawke	Mr Morton	Mr Thompson
Mr Coleman	Mr Hogan	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Tudge
Mr Conaghan	Mr Howarth	Mr L. S. O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Connelly	Mr Hunt	Mr O’Dowd	Mr Wallace
Mr Coulton	Mr Irons	Mr Pasin	Dr Webster
Mr Drum*	Mr Joyce	Mr Pearce	Mrs Wicks
Mr Dutton	Mr C. Kelly	Mr Pitt	Mr R. J. Wilson
Mr Entsch	Mr Laming	Mr Porter	Mr T. R. Wilson
Mr Evans	Ms Landry	Ms Price	Mr Wood
Mr Falinski	Mr Leeser	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Wyatt
Mr Fletcher	Ms Ley	Mr Robert	Mr Young
Ms Flint	Mr Littleproud	Ms Sharkie	Mr Zimmerman

* Tellers

† Proxy

And so it was negatived.

- 9:47:35 AM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 9:47:51 AM

Message from the Governor-General

Message No. 41, 13 September 2019, from His Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.

- 9:48:04 AM

On the motion of Mr Tudge (Minister for Population, Cities and Urban Infrastructure), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 9:48:32 AM

5Intelligence and Security—Parliamentary Joint Committee—REPORT—STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Mr Hastie (Chair) presented the following document:

Intelligence and Security—Parliamentary Joint Committee—Advisory report on the Identity-matching Services Bill 2019 and the Australian Passports Amendment (Identity-matching Services) Bill 2019—Report, October 2019.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.

Mr Hastie, 9:48:51 AM. Mr Dreyfus, 9:54:21 AM.

- 9:54:38 AM

Mr Hastie and Mr Dreyfus, by leave, made statements in connection with the report.

- 10:01:35 AM

6 VET Student Loans (VSL Tuition Protection Levy) Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

- 10:01:56 AM

Question—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 10:02:17 AM

On the motion of Mr Tudge (Minister for Population, Cities and Urban Infrastructure), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 10:02:37 AM

7 Higher Education Support (HELP Tuition Protection Levy) Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

- 10:02:55 AM

Question—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 10:03:19 AM

On the motion of Mr Tudge (Minister for Population, Cities and Urban Infrastructure), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 10:03:40 AM

8 Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

- 10:04:06 AM

Debate resumed by Mr Jones who moved, as an amendment—

That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

“whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:

(1)recognises the importance of cash for conducting transactions around Australia; and

(2)notes the concerns that have arisen in some parts of the community about the bill, in the context of the stagnating Australian economy under the Coalition Government”.

Debate ensued.

Mr Katter, 10:19:35 AM. Mr Wilkie, 10:34:51 AM. Ms Sharkie, 10:49:56 AM. Ms Ley, 10:56:07 AM.

- 10:57:47 AM

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.

- 10:57:55 AM

Division 97

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 66

Mr Albanese	Mrs Elliot	Dr Leigh	Ms Rowland
Dr Aly	Mr Fitzgibbon	Ms McBride	Ms Ryan*
Mr Bandt	Dr Freelander	Mr Marles	Ms Sharkie
Ms Bird	Mr Georganas	Mr B. K. Mitchell	Mr Shorten
Mr Bowen	Mr Giles	Mr R. G. Mitchell	Mr D. P. B. Smith
Mr Burke	Mr Gorman	Dr Mulino	Mr Snowdon
Mr Burns	Mr Gosling	Ms Murphy	Ms Stanley*
Mr M. C. Butler	Mr Hayes	Mr Neumann	Ms Swanson
Ms T. M. Butler	Mr Hill	Mr O’Connor	Ms Templeman
Mr Byrne	Mr Husic	Ms O’Neil	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Chalmers	Mr Jones	Ms Owens	Ms Thwaites
Ms L. M. Chesters	Mr Katter	Ms Payne	Mr Watts
Mr Clare	Ms Kearney	Mr Perrett	Ms Wells
Ms Claydon	Mr Keogh	Mrs Phillips	Mr Wilkie
Ms Collins	Mr Khalil	Ms Plibersek	Mr J. H. Wilson
Mr Dick	Ms C. F. King	Ms Rishworth	Mr Zappia
Mr Dreyfus	Ms M. M. H. King

NOES, 75

Mr Alexander	Mr Frydenberg	Ms Liu	Mr Simmonds
Dr Allen	Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Ms Steggall
Mr K. J. Andrews	Dr Gillespie	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Stevens
Mrs Archer	Mr Goodenough	Dr McVeigh	Mr Sukkar
Ms Bell	Dr Haines	Mrs Marino	Mr Taylor
Mr Broadbent	Ms Hammond	Dr Martin	Mr Tehan
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hastie	Mr Morrison	Mr Thompson
Mr D. J. Chester	Mr Hawke	Mr Morton	Mr Tudge
Mr Coleman	Mr Hogan	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Conaghan	Mr Howarth	Mr L. S. O’Brien	Mr Wallace
Mr Connelly	Mr Hunt	Mr O’Dowd	Dr Webster
Mr Coulton	Mr Irons	Mr Pasin	Mrs Wicks
Mr Drum*	Mr Joyce	Mr Pearce	Mr R. J. Wilson
Mr Dutton	Mr C. Kelly	Mr Pitt	Mr T. R. Wilson
Mr Entsch	Mr Laming	Mr Porter	Mr Wood
Mr Evans	Ms Landry	Ms Price	Mr Wyatt
Mr Falinski	Mr Leeser	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Young
Mr Fletcher	Ms Ley	Mr Robert	Mr Zimmerman
Ms Flint	Mr Littleproud	Mr Sharma

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 11:05:27 AM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put.

- 11:05:46 AM

Division (This division is yet to be finalised and details are subject to change.)

The House divided and only Mr Bandt, Mr Katter, Ms Sharkie and Mr Wilkie voting “No”, the Speaker (Mr A. D. H. Smith) declared the question resolved in the affirmative.

- 11:07:02 AM

—bill read a second time.

- 11:07:25 AM

On the motion of Mr Robert (Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 11:08:48 AM

9 Treasury Laws Amendment (International Tax Agreements) Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

- 11:09:04 AM

Debate resumed by Mr Jones who moved, as an amendment—

That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

“whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House recognises:

(1)the importance of Australia’s long-standing relationship with Israel; and

(2)the need to support cooperation between national tax authorities”.

Debate ensued.

Mr Falinski, 11:12:03 AM. Mr Thistlethwaite, 11:23:50 AM. Mr Burns, 11:29:58 AM. Mr Robert, 11:41:19 AM.

- 11:42:21 AM

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.

- 11:42:33 AM

Division 98

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 62

Dr Aly	Mrs Elliot	Dr Leigh	Ms Rishworth
Mr Bandt	Mr Fitzgibbon	Ms McBride	Ms Rowland
Ms Bird	Dr Freelander	Mr Marles	Ms Ryan*
Mr Bowen	Mr Georganas	Mr B. K. Mitchell	Mr Shorten
Mr Burke	Mr Giles	Mr R. G. Mitchell	Mr D. P. B. Smith
Mr Burns	Mr Gorman	Dr Mulino	Mr Snowdon
Mr M. C. Butler	Mr Gosling	Ms Murphy	Ms Stanley*
Ms T. M. Butler	Mr Hayes	Mr Neumann	Ms Swanson
Mr Byrne	Mr Hill	Mr O’Connor	Ms Templeman
Dr Chalmers	Mr Husic	Ms O’Neil	Mr Thistlethwaite
Ms L. M. Chesters	Mr Jones	Ms Owens	Ms Thwaites
Mr Clare	Ms Kearney	Ms Payne	Mr Watts
Ms Claydon	Mr Keogh	Mr Perrett	Ms Wells
Ms Collins	Mr Khalil	Mrs Phillips	Mr J. H. Wilson
Mr Dick	Ms C. F. King	Ms Plibersek	Mr Zappia
Mr Dreyfus	Ms M. M. H. King

NOES, 76

Mr Alexander	Mr Frydenberg	Ms Liu	Mr Sharma
Dr Allen	Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Mr Simmonds
Mr K. J. Andrews	Dr Gillespie	Mrs McIntosh	Ms Steggall
Mrs Archer	Mr Goodenough	Dr McVeigh	Mr Stevens
Ms Bell	Dr Haines	Mrs Marino	Mr Sukkar
Mr Broadbent	Ms Hammond	Dr Martin	Mr Taylor
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hastie	Mr Morrison	Mr Tehan
Mr D. J. Chester	Mr Hawke	Mr Morton	Mr Thompson
Mr Coleman	Mr Hogan	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Tudge
Mr Conaghan	Mr Howarth	Mr L. S. O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Connelly	Mr Hunt	Mr O’Dowd	Mr Wallace
Mr Coulton	Mr Irons	Mr Pasin	Dr Webster
Mr Drum*	Mr Joyce	Mr Pearce	Mrs Wicks
Mr Dutton	Mr C. Kelly	Mr Pitt	Mr R. J. Wilson
Mr Entsch	Mr Laming	Mr Porter	Mr T. R. Wilson
Mr Evans	Ms Landry	Ms Price	Mr Wood
Mr Falinski	Mr Leeser	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Wyatt
Mr Fletcher	Ms Ley	Mr Robert	Mr Young
Ms Flint	Mr Littleproud	Ms Sharkie	Mr Zimmerman

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 11:50:28 AM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 11:51:02 AM

On the motion of Mr Robert (Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 11:51:38 AM

10 Customs Amendment (Product Specific Rule Modernisation) Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

- 11:52:06 AM

Debate resumed by Ms M. M. H. King who moved, as an amendment—

That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

“whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:

(1)notes:

(a)that the focus of the Government’s trade priorities in the short, medium, and long term should be to diversify Australia’s trading relationships in order to balance against further external economic shocks; and

(b)the government’s failure to allow the Productivity Commission to conduct independent modelling of bilateral trade agreements prior to ratification; and

(2)calls on the Government to:

(a)proactively engage with the Opposition on trade matters, maintaining bipartisanship in the trade portfolio in the face of increasing global economic uncertainty; and

(b)reaffirm Australia’s support for a multilateral trade system, including continuing engagement with international trade institutions such as the World Trade Organisation”.

Debate ensued.

Dr Leigh, 12:07:33 PM. Mr Wood, 12:18:10 PM.

- 12:20:05 PM

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.

- 12:20:17 PM

Division 99

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 62

Mr Albanese	Mrs Elliot	Dr Leigh	Ms Rishworth†
Dr Aly	Mr Fitzgibbon	Ms McBride	Ms Rowland
Ms Bird	Dr Freelander	Mr Marles	Ms Ryan*
Mr Bowen	Mr Georganas	Mr B. K. Mitchell	Mr Shorten
Mr Burke	Mr Giles	Mr R. G. Mitchell	Mr D. P. B. Smith
Mr Burns	Mr Gorman	Dr Mulino	Mr Snowdon
Mr M. C. Butler	Mr Gosling	Ms Murphy	Ms Stanley*
Ms T. M. Butler	Mr Hayes	Mr Neumann	Ms Swanson
Mr Byrne	Mr Hill	Mr O’Connor	Ms Templeman
Dr Chalmers	Mr Husic	Ms O’Neil	Mr Thistlethwaite
Ms L. M. Chesters	Mr Jones	Ms Owens	Ms Thwaites
Mr Clare	Ms Kearney	Ms Payne	Mr Watts
Ms Claydon	Mr Keogh	Mr Perrett	Ms Wells
Ms Collins	Mr Khalil	Mrs Phillips	Mr J. H. Wilson
Mr Dick	Ms C. F. King	Ms Plibersek	Mr Zappia
Mr Dreyfus	Ms M. M. H. King

NOES, 76

Mr Alexander	Mr Frydenberg	Ms Liu	Mr Sharma
Dr Allen	Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Mr Simmonds
Mr K. J. Andrews	Dr Gillespie	Mrs McIntosh	Ms Steggall
Mrs Archer	Mr Goodenough	Dr McVeigh	Mr Stevens
Ms Bell	Dr Haines	Mrs Marino	Mr Sukkar
Mr Broadbent	Ms Hammond	Dr Martin	Mr Taylor
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hastie	Mr Morrison	Mr Tehan
Mr D. J. Chester	Mr Hawke	Mr Morton	Mr Thompson
Mr Coleman	Mr Hogan	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Tudge
Mr Conaghan	Mr Howarth	Mr L. S. O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Connelly	Mr Hunt	Mr O’Dowd	Mr Wallace
Mr Coulton	Mr Irons	Mr Pasin	Dr Webster
Mr Drum*	Mr Joyce	Mr Pearce	Mrs Wicks
Mr Dutton	Mr C. Kelly	Mr Pitt	Mr R. J. Wilson
Mr Entsch	Mr Laming	Mr Porter	Mr T. R. Wilson
Mr Evans	Ms Landry	Ms Price	Mr Wood
Mr Falinski	Mr Leeser	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Wyatt
Mr Fletcher	Ms Ley	Mr Robert	Mr Young
Ms Flint	Mr Littleproud	Ms Sharkie	Mr Zimmerman

* Tellers

† Proxy

And so it was negatived.

- 12:28:29 PM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 12:28:56 PM

On the motion of Mr Wood (Assistant Minister for Customs, Community Safety and Multicultural Affairs), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 12:29:30 PM

11 Education Legislation Amendment (2019 Measures No. 1) Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

- 12:29:43 PM

Debate resumed by Ms Plibersek who moved, as an amendment—

That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

“whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House notes that, under the Coalition Government, Australia’s higher education system is failing kids, workers and businesses, as demonstrated by:

(1)falling entrance marks for teaching degrees;

(2)the Government leaving behind our regions;

(3)a skills crisis where 150,000 apprentices and trainees have been lost and more than $3 billion has been cut from TAFE and training; and

(4)restricted access to university, with 200,000 Australians locked out of university, especially in the suburbs and the regions”.

Debate ensued.

Mr Hayes, 1:00:07 PM. Mr Dick, 1:15:14 PM.

- 1:29:51 PM

It being 1.30 pm, the debate was interrupted in accordance with standing order 43 and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 1:29:56 PM

12MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS

Members’ statements being made—

Ms Murphy, 1:30:04 PM. Dr Allen, 1:31:26 PM.

- 1:31:52 PM

Petition

Dr Allen presented the following petition approved by the Standing Committee on Petitions:

Australian trial of oral immunotherapy treatment for food allergies—7,265 petitioners.

- 1:32:42 PM

Members’ statements continued.

Mr Bowen, 1:33:02 PM. Mr K. J. Andrews, 1:34:45 PM. Ms Ryan, 1:36:08 PM. Mrs Archer, 1:37:41 PM. Mrs Phillips, 1:39:10 PM. Ms Bell, 1:40:45 PM. Mr Bandt, 1:42:21 PM. Mr Leeser, 1:43:50 PM. Mr Thistlethwaite, 1:45:32 PM. Ms Flint, 1:46:59 PM. Mr Watts, 1:48:35 PM. Mr Connelly, 1:50:09 PM. Ms L. M. Chesters, 1:51:38 PM. Mr Conaghan, 1:53:14 PM. Ms Templeman, 1:54:44 PM. Mr Drum, 1:56:21 PM. Ms Wells, 1:57:57 PM. Mr Entsch, 1:59:29 PM.

- 2:01:15 PM

13QUESTIONS

- 2:01:24 PM

(1)Mr Albanese to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:01:39 PM

(2)Mr Zimmerman to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:04:54 PM

(3)Mr Fitzgibbon to Mr McCormack (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development)

- 2:07:04 PM

(4)Mr O’Dowd to Mr McCormack (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development)

- 2:10:34 PM

(5)Mr Fitzgibbon to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:10:59 PM

(6)Mr Wilkie to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

Mr Littleproud, 2:12:30 PM.

- 2:13:36 PM

(7)Mr Young to Mr Frydenberg (Treasurer)

- 2:17:02 PM

(8)Dr Chalmers to Mr Frydenberg (Treasurer)

- 2:18:22 PM

(9)Mr Wallace to Mr Hunt (Minister for Health)

- 2:21:45 PM

(10)Mr D. P. B. Smith to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

Point of order, Mr Albanese. 2:23:37 PM. Mr Morrison, 2:24:03 PM.

- 2:25:31 PM

(11)Ms Flint to Mr Sukkar (Minister for Housing)

- 2:28:57 PM

(12)Mr Albanese to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 2:29:37 PM

(13)Dr Allen to Mr Coleman (Minister for Immigration, Citizenship, Migrant Services and Multicultural Affairs)

- 2:33:10 PM

(14)Mr M. C. Butler to Mr Taylor (Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction)

- 2:33:52 PM

(15)Mr Ted O’Brien to Mr Hawke (Minister for International Development and the Pacific)

- 2:37:31 PM

(16)Mr M. C. Butler to Mr Taylor (Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction)

- 2:38:03 PM

(17)Dr Webster to Mr Coulton (Minister for Regional Services, Decentralisation and Local Government)

- 2:41:59 PM

(18)Mr M. C. Butler to Mr Taylor (Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction)

- 2:42:27 PM

(19)Mr Hastie to Mr D. J. Chester (Minister for Veterans and Defence Personnel)

- 2:45:41 PM

Mr Albanese (Leader of the Opposition), by indulgence, added to the answer given by Mr Chester.

- 2:46:07 PM

(20)Mr M. C. Butler to Mr Taylor (Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction)

- 2:47:23 PM

(21)Ms Bell to Mr Dutton (Minister for Home Affairs)

- 2:54:18 PM

(22)Mr M. C. Butler to Mr Taylor (Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction)

Point of order, Mr Porter. 2:55:15 PM. Point of order, Mr Burke. 2:56:03 PM. Mr Taylor, 2:57:09 PM.

- 2:57:41 PM

(23)Mr Alexander to Mr Porter (Attorney-General)

- 3:01:25 PM

Mr Burke (Manager of Opposition Business), sought leave to move a motion. Leave not granted..

- 3:02:53 PM

Suspension of standing orders moved

Mr Burke moved—That so much of the standing orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Watson from moving the following motion immediately—That the House:

(1)notes the:

(a)Prime Minister’s statement in the House on Monday this week that “Whether they're politicians, journalists, public officials, anyone—there is no-one in this country who is above the law”;

(b)reported provision of a forged document to The Daily Telegraph by the Minister for Emissions Reduction in an attempt to influence the public duty of the Lord Mayor of Sydney;

(c)creation and/or knowing use of a forged document in an attempt to influence a public duty is a serious indictable offence under New South Wales law punishable by up to 10 years in prison;

(d)failure to report knowledge of a serious indictable offence is also an offence under New South Wales law punishable by up to two years in prison;

(e)Minister for Emissions Reduction has failed to explain his role in, or knowledge of, the creation and/or use of a forged document used in an attempt to influence the public duty of the Lord Mayor of Sydney; and

(f)Minister has refused to give straight answers to simple questions about these crimes, as if the public has no right to know; and

(2)having regard to the foregoing, calls on the Prime Minister to ask the New South Wales Police to investigate whether the Minister for Emissions Reduction has committed a crime.

- 3:04:36 PM

Closure of Member

Mr Porter (Leader of the House) moved—That the Member be no longer heard.

Question—put.

- 3:04:51 PM

Division 100

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 73

Mr Alexander	Mr Frydenberg	Ms Liu	Mr Sharma
Dr Allen	Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Mr Simmonds
Mr K. J. Andrews	Dr Gillespie	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Stevens
Mrs Archer	Mr Goodenough	Dr McVeigh	Mr Sukkar
Ms Bell	Ms Hammond	Mrs Marino	Mr Taylor
Mr Broadbent	Mr Hastie	Dr Martin	Mr Tehan
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hawke	Mr Morrison	Mr Thompson
Mr D. J. Chester	Mr Hogan	Mr Morton	Mr Tudge
Mr Coleman	Mr Howarth	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Conaghan	Mr Hunt	Mr L. S. O’Brien	Mr Wallace
Mr Connelly	Mr Irons	Mr O’Dowd	Dr Webster
Mr Coulton	Mr Joyce	Mr Pasin	Mrs Wicks
Mr Drum*	Mr C. Kelly	Mr Pearce	Mr R. J. Wilson
Mr Dutton	Mr Laming	Mr Pitt	Mr T. R. Wilson
Mr Entsch	Ms Landry	Mr Porter	Mr Wood
Mr Evans	Mr Leeser	Ms Price	Mr Wyatt
Mr Falinski	Ms Ley	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Young
Mr Fletcher	Mr Littleproud	Mr Robert	Mr Zimmerman
Ms Flint

NOES, 66

Mr Albanese	Mr Dreyfus	Dr Leigh	Ms Ryan*
Dr Aly	Mrs Elliot	Ms McBride	Ms Sharkie
Mr Bandt	Mr Fitzgibbon	Mr Marles	Mr Shorten
Ms Bird	Dr Freelander	Mr B. K. Mitchell	Mr D. P. B. Smith
Mr Bowen	Mr Georganas	Mr R. G. Mitchell	Mr Snowdon
Mr Burke	Mr Giles	Dr Mulino	Ms Stanley*
Mr Burns	Mr Gosling	Mr Neumann	Ms Steggall
Mr M. C. Butler	Dr Haines	Mr O’Connor	Ms Swanson
Ms T. M. Butler	Mr Hayes	Ms O’Neil	Ms Templeman
Mr Byrne	Mr Hill	Ms Owens	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Chalmers	Mr Husic	Ms Payne	Ms Thwaites
Ms L. M. Chesters	Mr Jones	Mr Perrett	Mr Watts
Mr Clare	Ms Kearney	Mrs Phillips	Ms Wells
Ms Claydon	Mr Keogh	Ms Plibersek	Mr Wilkie
Ms Collins	Mr Khalil	Ms Rishworth	Mr J. H. Wilson
Mr Conroy	Ms C. F. King	Ms Rowland	Mr Zappia
Mr Dick	Ms M. M. H. King

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 3:11:39 PM

Mr M. C. Butler (seconder) addressing the House—

- 3:11:49 PM

Closure of Member

Mr Porter moved—That the Member be no longer heard.

Question—put.

- 3:11:52 PM

Division 101

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 73

Mr Alexander	Mr Frydenberg	Ms Liu	Mr Sharma
Dr Allen	Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Mr Simmonds
Mr K. J. Andrews	Dr Gillespie	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Stevens
Mrs Archer	Mr Goodenough	Dr McVeigh	Mr Sukkar
Ms Bell	Ms Hammond	Mrs Marino	Mr Taylor
Mr Broadbent	Mr Hastie	Dr Martin	Mr Tehan
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hawke	Mr Morrison	Mr Thompson
Mr D. J. Chester	Mr Hogan	Mr Morton	Mr Tudge
Mr Coleman	Mr Howarth	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Conaghan	Mr Hunt	Mr L. S. O’Brien	Mr Wallace
Mr Connelly	Mr Irons	Mr O’Dowd	Dr Webster
Mr Coulton	Mr Joyce	Mr Pasin	Mrs Wicks
Mr Drum*	Mr C. Kelly	Mr Pearce	Mr R. J. Wilson
Mr Dutton	Mr Laming	Mr Pitt	Mr T. R. Wilson
Mr Entsch	Ms Landry	Mr Porter	Mr Wood
Mr Evans	Mr Leeser	Ms Price	Mr Wyatt
Mr Falinski	Ms Ley	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Young
Mr Fletcher	Mr Littleproud	Mr Robert	Mr Zimmerman
Ms Flint

NOES, 66

Mr Albanese	Mr Dreyfus	Dr Leigh	Ms Ryan*
Dr Aly	Mrs Elliot	Ms McBride	Ms Sharkie
Mr Bandt	Mr Fitzgibbon	Mr Marles	Mr Shorten
Ms Bird	Dr Freelander	Mr B. K. Mitchell	Mr D. P. B. Smith
Mr Bowen	Mr Georganas	Mr R. G. Mitchell	Mr Snowdon
Mr Burke	Mr Giles	Dr Mulino	Ms Stanley*
Mr Burns	Mr Gosling	Mr Neumann	Ms Steggall
Mr M. C. Butler	Dr Haines	Mr O’Connor	Ms Swanson
Ms T. M. Butler	Mr Hayes	Ms O’Neil	Ms Templeman
Mr Byrne	Mr Hill	Ms Owens	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Chalmers	Mr Husic	Ms Payne	Ms Thwaites
Ms L. M. Chesters	Mr Jones	Mr Perrett	Mr Watts
Mr Clare	Ms Kearney	Mrs Phillips	Ms Wells
Ms Claydon	Mr Keogh	Ms Plibersek	Mr Wilkie
Ms Collins	Mr Khalil	Ms Rishworth	Mr J. H. Wilson
Mr Conroy	Ms C. F. King	Ms Rowland	Mr Zappia
Mr Dick	Ms M. M. H. King

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 3:14:16 PM

Debate ensued.

- 3:14:19 PM

Mr Marles addressing the House—

- 3:14:27 PM

Closure

Mr Porter moved—That the question be now put.

Question—That the question be now put—put.

- 3:14:30 PM

Division 102

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 73

Mr Alexander	Mr Frydenberg	Ms Liu	Mr Sharma
Dr Allen	Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Mr Simmonds
Mr K. J. Andrews	Dr Gillespie	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Stevens
Mrs Archer	Mr Goodenough	Dr McVeigh	Mr Sukkar
Ms Bell	Ms Hammond	Mrs Marino	Mr Taylor
Mr Broadbent	Mr Hastie	Dr Martin	Mr Tehan
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hawke	Mr Morrison	Mr Thompson
Mr D. J. Chester	Mr Hogan	Mr Morton	Mr Tudge
Mr Coleman	Mr Howarth	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Conaghan	Mr Hunt	Mr L. S. O’Brien	Mr Wallace
Mr Connelly	Mr Irons	Mr O’Dowd	Dr Webster
Mr Coulton	Mr Joyce	Mr Pasin	Mrs Wicks
Mr Drum*	Mr C. Kelly	Mr Pearce	Mr R. J. Wilson
Mr Dutton	Mr Laming	Mr Pitt	Mr T. R. Wilson
Mr Entsch	Ms Landry	Mr Porter	Mr Wood
Mr Evans	Mr Leeser	Ms Price	Mr Wyatt
Mr Falinski	Ms Ley	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Young
Mr Fletcher	Mr Littleproud	Mr Robert	Mr Zimmerman
Ms Flint

NOES, 66

Mr Albanese	Mr Dreyfus	Dr Leigh	Ms Ryan*
Dr Aly	Mrs Elliot	Ms McBride	Ms Sharkie
Mr Bandt	Mr Fitzgibbon	Mr Marles	Mr Shorten
Ms Bird	Dr Freelander	Mr B. K. Mitchell	Mr D. P. B. Smith
Mr Bowen	Mr Georganas	Mr R. G. Mitchell	Mr Snowdon
Mr Burke	Mr Giles	Dr Mulino	Ms Stanley*
Mr Burns	Mr Gosling	Mr Neumann	Ms Steggall
Mr M. C. Butler	Dr Haines	Mr O’Connor	Ms Swanson
Ms T. M. Butler	Mr Hayes	Ms O’Neil	Ms Templeman
Mr Byrne	Mr Hill	Ms Owens	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Chalmers	Mr Husic	Ms Payne	Ms Thwaites
Ms L. M. Chesters	Mr Jones	Mr Perrett	Mr Watts
Mr Clare	Ms Kearney	Mrs Phillips	Ms Wells
Ms Claydon	Mr Keogh	Ms Plibersek	Mr Wilkie
Ms Collins	Mr Khalil	Ms Rishworth	Mr J. H. Wilson
Mr Conroy	Ms C. F. King	Ms Rowland	Mr Zappia
Mr Dick	Ms M. M. H. King

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 3:17:05 PM

And the question—That the motion for the suspension of standing orders be agreed to—being accordingly put—

- 3:17:15 PM

Division 103

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr A. D. H. Smith, in the Chair)—

AYES, 66

Mr Albanese	Mr Dreyfus	Dr Leigh	Ms Ryan*
Dr Aly	Mrs Elliot	Ms McBride	Ms Sharkie
Mr Bandt	Mr Fitzgibbon	Mr Marles	Mr Shorten
Ms Bird	Dr Freelander	Mr B. K. Mitchell	Mr D. P. B. Smith
Mr Bowen	Mr Georganas	Mr R. G. Mitchell	Mr Snowdon
Mr Burke	Mr Giles	Dr Mulino	Ms Stanley*
Mr Burns	Mr Gosling	Mr Neumann	Ms Steggall
Mr M. C. Butler	Dr Haines	Mr O’Connor	Ms Swanson
Ms T. M. Butler	Mr Hayes	Ms O’Neil	Ms Templeman
Mr Byrne	Mr Hill	Ms Owens	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Chalmers	Mr Husic	Ms Payne	Ms Thwaites
Ms L. M. Chesters	Mr Jones	Mr Perrett	Mr Watts
Mr Clare	Ms Kearney	Mrs Phillips	Ms Wells
Ms Claydon	Mr Keogh	Ms Plibersek	Mr Wilkie
Ms Collins	Mr Khalil	Ms Rishworth	Mr J. H. Wilson
Mr Conroy	Ms C. F. King	Ms Rowland	Mr Zappia
Mr Dick	Ms M. M. H. King

NOES, 73

Mr Alexander	Mr Frydenberg	Ms Liu	Mr Sharma
Dr Allen	Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Mr Simmonds
Mr K. J. Andrews	Dr Gillespie	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Stevens
Mrs Archer	Mr Goodenough	Dr McVeigh	Mr Sukkar
Ms Bell	Ms Hammond	Mrs Marino	Mr Taylor
Mr Broadbent	Mr Hastie	Dr Martin	Mr Tehan
Mr Buchholz	Mr Hawke	Mr Morrison	Mr Thompson
Mr D. J. Chester	Mr Hogan	Mr Morton	Mr Tudge
Mr Coleman	Mr Howarth	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Conaghan	Mr Hunt	Mr L. S. O’Brien	Mr Wallace
Mr Connelly	Mr Irons	Mr O’Dowd	Dr Webster
Mr Coulton	Mr Joyce	Mr Pasin	Mrs Wicks
Mr Drum*	Mr C. Kelly	Mr Pearce	Mr R. J. Wilson
Mr Dutton	Mr Laming	Mr Pitt	Mr T. R. Wilson
Mr Entsch	Ms Landry	Mr Porter	Mr Wood
Mr Evans	Mr Leeser	Ms Price	Mr Wyatt
Mr Falinski	Ms Ley	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Young
Mr Fletcher	Mr Littleproud	Mr Robert	Mr Zimmerman
Ms Flint

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 3:21:26 PM

Questions without notice continued.

- 3:22:51 PM

(24)Mr Thompson to Mr Morrison (Prime Minister)

- 3:26:27 PM

14MINISTRY—DOCUMENT

Mr Morrison (Prime Minister) presented the following document: Second Morrison Ministry, 29 May 2019.

- 3:26:46 PM

Mr A. D. H. Smith (Speaker), made a statement in relation to the upcoming retirement of Trish Bicket.

- 3:29:14 PM

15DOCUMENTS

The following documents were presented:

*Aboriginal Hostels Limited—Report for 2018-19.

*Australian Digital Health Agency—Report for 2018-19.

*Australian Institute of Health and Welfare—Report for 2018-19.

*Department of Health—Report for 2018-19.

Health, Aged Care and Sport—House of Representatives Standing Committee—Report on the inquiry into the quality of care in aged care facilities in Australia—Government response, October 2019.

Medical Research Future Fund Act 2015—Report on the financial assistance to support the Australian Medical Research and Innovation Priorities for 2016-18.

*National Film and Sound Archive—Report for 2018-19.

*National Mental Health Commission—Report for 2018-19.

*National Offshore Petroleum Safety and Environmental Management Authority (NOPSEMA)—Report for 2018-19—Addendum.

*North Queensland Livestock Industry Recovery Agency—Report for 2018-19.

*Superannuation Complaints Tribunal—Report for 2018-19.

*The documents were made Parliamentary Papers.

- 3:29:27 PM

16Leave of absence to Member

Mr Burke (Manager of Opposition Business) moved—That leave of absence from 25 November 2019 until 2 April 2020 be given to Ms L. M. Chesters, for parental leave purposes.

- 3:29:42 PM

Question—put and passed.

- 3:30:09 PM

17DISCUSSION OF MATTER OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE—Economy

The House was informed that Mr O’Connor had proposed that a definite matter of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion, namely, “The failure of the Morrison Government to acknowledge and address structural problems in the economy including record high underemployment and record low wage growth”.

- 3:30:20 PM

The proposed discussion having received the necessary support—

- 3:30:26 PM

Mr O’Connor addressed the House.

- 3:30:32 PM

Discussion ensued.

Mr Coulton, 3:40:31 PM. Ms L. M. Chesters, 3:50:40 PM. Mr Morton, 3:55:47 PM.

- 4:00:55 PM

Discussion concluded.

- 4:01:00 PM

18Road Safety—Joint Select Committee—MEMBERSHIP

The House was informed that the Chief Government Whip had nominated Members to be members of the Joint Select Committee on Road Safety.

Mr Coulton (Minister for Regional Services, Decentralisation and Local Government), by leave, moved—That Mr Broadbent, Mr Conaghan, Mr L. S. O’Brien and Mr R. J. Wilson be appointed members of the Joint Select Committee on Road Safety.

- 4:01:28 PM

Question—put and passed.

- 4:01:36 PM

19 Civil Aviation Amendment Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the second reading—

- 4:01:47 PM

Document

Mr Gee presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

- 4:02:00 PM

Mr Gee moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 4:04:07 PM

Debate ensued.

Ms C. F. King, 4:04:10 PM.

- 4:08:55 PM

Question—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 4:09:18 PM

On the motion of Mr Gee (Assistant Minister to the Deputy Prime Minister), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 4:09:42 PM

20Education Legislation Amendment (2019 Measures No. 1) Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—And on the amendment moved thereto by Ms Plibersek (see item No. 11, page 401)—

- 4:10:11 PM

Amendment negatived.

- 4:10:32 PM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 4:10:59 PM

Message from the Governor-General

Message No. 42, 15 October 2019, from His Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.

- 4:11:10 PM

On the motion of Mr Gee (Assistant Minister to the Deputy Prime Minister), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 4:12:28 PM

Quorum called, Mr Hayes.

- 4:15:13 PM

Quorum formed.

- 4:15:21 PM

21PROGRAM OF SITTINGS FOR 2020—DOCUMENT

Mr Porter (Leader of the House) presented the following document:

Parliamentary sittings 2020.

- 4:15:33 PM

Mr Porter, by leave, moved—That the program of sittings for 2020 be agreed to.

- 4:15:46 PM

Question—put and passed.

- 4:16:00 PM

22 Family Assistance Legislation Amendment (Building on the Child Care Package) Bill 2019

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr van Manen, 4:16:14 PM.

- 4:29:33 PM

23ADJOURNMENT

It being 4.30 pm—The question was proposed—That the House do now adjourn.

Debate ensued.

Mr M. C. Butler, 4:29:40 PM. Ms Hammond, 4:34:27 PM. Ms T. M. Butler, 4:39:34 PM. Mr Goodenough, 4:44:32 PM. Mr Byrne, 4:50:16 PM. Dr Gillespie, 4:55:14 PM.

- 5:00:26 PM

The House continuing to sit until 5 pm—The Speaker adjourned the House until 10 am on Monday, 25 November 2019.

- 5:00:30 PM

DOCUMENTS

The following documents were deemed to have been presented on 24 October 2019 (An explanatory statement has been presented with each instrument unless otherwise indicated by an asterisk):

Australian Research Council Act 2001—

Grant Guidelines for the Discovery Program (2019 edition) [F2019L01372].

Grant Guidelines for the Linkage Program (2019 edition) Industrial Transformation Research Program [F2019L01371].

Health Insurance Act 1973—Health Insurance (Section 3C—Other Medical Practitioner and Telehealth) Amendment (Australian Statistical Geography Standard) Determination 2019 [F2019L01367].

Migration Act 1958—Migration Regulations 1994—Migration (LIN 19/198: Evidence of financial capacity—Subclass 500 Visa and Subclass 590 Visa) Instrument 2019 [F2019L01366].

National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Act 2007—National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Regulations 2008—National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting (Auditor Registration) Instrument 2019 [F2019L01368].

National Redress Scheme for Institutional Child Sexual Abuse Act 2018—National Redress Scheme for Institutional Child Sexual Abuse Assessment Framework Amendment (Categories of abuse) Declaration 2019 [F2019L01369].

Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Act 1989—Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Amendment (Methyl Bromide, Fire Protection and Other Measures) Regulations 2018 [F2018L01730]—Replacement explanatory statement.

Veterans’ Entitlements Act 1986—Amendment Statement of Principles concerning Ross River virus infection (Reasonable Hypothesis)—No. 103 of 2019 [F2019L01370].

- 5:00:37 PM

ATTENDANCE

All Members attended (at some time during the sitting) except Mrs K. L. Andrews, Ms Burney, *Mr Champion, *Mr Christensen, Ms Coker, *Dr M. J. Kelly, Ms Vamvakinou and *Mr Vasta.

* On leave

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