Chapter 2
Parliamentary departments and portfolio issues
2.1       
This chapter summarises some of the matters raised during the
committee's hearings on the additional estimates 2012–13.
Parliamentary departments
Department of the Senate
2.2       
The committee sought advice on the relationship between the work of the
newly established Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual
Abuse and the work of the Parliament. It was noted that in relation to this issue
there has been a number of comprehensive Senate committee inquiries which
published submissions, evidence and reports. In particular, the committee
sought clarification on the status of this evidence in light of term of reference
(l) of the Royal Commission which states:
  ...the need to establish appropriate arrangements in relation
    to current and previous inquiries, in Australia and elsewhere, for evidence and
    information to be shared with you in ways consistent with relevant obligations
    so that the work of those inquiries, including, with any necessary consents,
    the testimony of witnesses, can be taken into account by you in a way that
    avoids unnecessary duplication, improves efficiency and avoids unnecessary
    trauma to witnesses.[1]
2.3       
  The Clerk of the Senate provided a detailed response, noting the
  valuable information generated from Senate inquiries which may inform the
  proceedings of the Royal Commission, but also noting the limitations on the use
  of parliamentary proceedings. The Clerk stated:
  The royal commission is obviously a major and significant
    inquiry that no-one would want to see limited by unnecessary impediments, but
    by law there are some limitations on the use that bodies such as royal
    commissions can make of parliamentary proceedings. Houses have exclusive
    cognisance over their proceedings. They cannot be questioned or impeached in
    any place outside of parliament.
  ...
  The basic restriction is that people cannot be questioned on
    their parliamentary evidence, and there are some limitations on the conclusions
    that can be drawn from the parliamentary evidence by outside bodies. The royal
    commission can access any or all of the published evidence and information, but
    not the unpublished or in camera material without further decision by the
    Senate. From the published material it can derive its own lines of inquiry,
    follow up things, learn information from what is on the record from the
    committee evidence and independently pursue inquiries. People can give to the
    royal commission the same information that they gave to the Senate committee,
    but if they provide to the royal commission a copy of their actual submission
    then those limitations would apply; if they top and tail it and turn it into a
    different document then it is perfectly okay. If people provided to Senate
    committees documents that had a prior existence—say, records of what happened
    in institutions, or whatever—then there is no limitation on them providing the
    same documents to the royal commission and the royal commission investigating
    those matters and questioning them about the documents. The only limitation is
    questioning on their parliamentary evidence, so it is really quite a narrow
    area. 
  It is conceivable that people might want to provide to the
    royal commission their in camera evidence to the Senate committees. That is
    where a difficulty might arise and that is where we would probably have to work
    through those issues on a case-by-case basis.[2]
2.4       
  The Clerk advised that she was considering ways of making information on
  the status and use of parliamentary evidence more widely available, including a
  note on the Senate website.[3]
2.5       
Other matters canvassed during the examination of the Department of the
Senate included the timing of the publication of the Senate Order of Business (The
Red) on Tuesdays, an update on the status of a Code of Code of Conduct for
Senators, the scheduling of work on the lighting rectification project in
Senators' offices, and the the department's submission to the review of the
operation of Freedom of Information (FOI) laws by Dr Allan Hawke AC (the Hawke
review).
Parliamentary Budget Office
2.6       
The Parliamentary Budget Officer, Mr Phil Bowen PSM, made a detailed
opening statement which provided an update on recent progress in the
Parliamentary Budget Office (PBO) in regard to staffing, workload, priority
setting, access to information and the self-initiated work program.
2.7       
The office's staffing level is now at 24 and it is expected to reach a
full complement of 30 to 35 on a permanent basis within the next couple months.[4]
2.8       
The committee was informed that the demand for services had increased
significantly in recent months with the office having received 207 requests and
provided 152 responses. The committee suggested that disaggregation of these
statistics, where appropriate, may be useful in future to monitor the work of
the PBO. Mr Bowen responded by advising that he would be reluctant to divulge
sources of requests, but considered statistics presented by broad
categorisations would not breach confidentiality. He further advised that 'with
one exception, the requests have all come from parties'.[5]
2.9       
Mr Bowen expressed his gratitude at the high level of cooperation of
departments and agencies in the provision of information, often within tight
time frames, with only very few requests currently overdue. He further noted
that the office is currently looking at options to gain access to certain
detailed taxation information from the Australian Taxation Office which is
currently restricted because of taxpayer privacy considerations.[6]
2.10     
Mr Bowen advised the committee that the office will ensure that
resources will be deployed on a fair and equitable basis and will consider the
number, complexity and urgency of the requests received from each requestor. In
regard to the caretaker period, Mr Bowen confirmed that:
  ...we will attempt to finalise any outstanding confidential
    costings that were submitted prior to the caretaker period commencing. However,
    we cannot guarantee to do so since our first priority in the caretaker period
    will be to cost publicly announced policies received during the caretaker
    period.[7]
2.11     
  Mr Bowen also encouraged the submission of policies to the PBO for
  costings prior to the caretaker period so that they can be costed with the best
  information to that point in time and if an update is requested during the
  caretaker period it would be quicker to prepare a costing that had been
  previously costed on a confidential basis. Mr Bowen stated:
  The problem for us will be that if we have to do every
    costing from the ground up during the caretaker period, we just may not
    physically be able to do all the costing. If we have costed them previously,
    then we will have the models, much of the physical data will not be changed and
    we can update for an economic variables that have changed.[8]
2.12     
  It was noted that under the PBO's legislation, the submission of an
  update on a previous confidential costing request during the caretaker period would
  be publicly released. In response to questions on the time it will take to
  update policy costings after the release of the Pre-Election Economic &
  Fiscal Outlook (PEFO), Mr Bowen advised that it will depend on the nature of
  the costings and the extent to which they are influenced by the economic
  parameters set out in the PEFO.[9]
2.13     
The committee was informed that the PBO's first published study will
examine trends in the structural budget balance over the past decade and the
projected shape of the structural budget balance over the 2013–14 budget and
forward estimates period. This is expected to be published later in this
financial year and after the budget.[10]
Department of Parliamentary
Services
2.14     
The Secretary of the Department of Parliamentary Services (DPS),
M Carol Mills, updated the committee on progress on the department's
implementation of reform, which will involve staffing, business model
processes, technology and systems, organisation and culture, and reporting and
monitoring processes. Many of these areas were identified as issues for
attention in the committee's report on the inquiry into the performance of DPS.[11]
Ms Mills elaborated on the DPS's response to the committee's report and its
commitment to implement change:
  You will note in the response that 21 of the 23
    recommendations which we deem to be fully the responsibility of the department
    were accepted, and a work program attached to those. One recommendation related
    to the governance of the department and, as the presiding officers have
    indicated in discussion with me, they wish to consider this further as it is a
    matter for them to provide a final view on. One recommendation also related to
    funding arrangements for the department, and whilst on a departmental basis we
    welcomed that recommendation and the committee's recognition of the budgetary
    pressures under which DPS is currently operating, it is clearly ultimately a
    matter for government as to whether they take that up. For each recommendation
    we have endeavoured to put a list of actions currently underway or scheduled,
    and have made a strong commitment to provide regular feedback to this committee
    against our progress.[12]
2.15     
  The Parliamentary Librarian, Dr Dianne Heriot, was asked about a recent
  letter of advice to all senators and members concerning freedom of information
  (FOI) issues in regard to processes of the Parliamentary Library. In
  particular, the issue of exemption for research/advice to members of parliament
  provided by the Parliamentary Library was raised. Dr Heriot advised that she
  has made a submission to the Hawke review and recommended that there should be
  a provision that would exempt confidential client advices from the operation of
  the Freedom of Information Act 1982. She suggested the consideration of two
  possible analogous models which may apply to the Parliamentary Library: exemptions
  applying to the PBO; and, to the courts. Dr Heriot stated:
  The impetus for my submissions and my letter was that, when
    parliament turned its mind to the operation of the library, it clearly was of
    the view, in enacting amendments to the Parliamentary Service Act in 2005, that
    the client advices that the librarian provides are confidential. I have a
    degree of complication there when the FOI Act does not explicitly recognise
    that and I am not able to say with certainty that under the FOI Act all advices
    will be treated as confidential. That is my concern.[13]
2.16     
  Other issues raised during the examination of DPS included the recent
  investigation into the use of the parliamentary computer network to post
  political material online using false names, the appointment of Ms Carolyn
  Walsh to conduct a an investigation into a security breach, and the impact of
  email outages on the electronic fax service.
Prime Minister and Cabinet Portfolio
Department of the Prime Minister
and Cabinet
2.17     
At the beginning of the examination of the Department of the Prime
Minister and Cabinet (PM&C), it was noted that the Secretary, Dr Ian Watt
AO, was not in attendance. It was pointed out to the committee by officers in
attendance that it has been a longstanding practice that the Secretary of
PM&C is represented by officials at Senate estimates hearings:
  ...I would clarify that there is a longstanding practice, going
    back over the past seven secretaries—back 30 years, back to Sir Geoffrey
    Yeend—that the secretary does not attend and in fact delegates to his senior
    officers. There has been one exception—Mr Moore-Wilton in 2002—but that has
    been the longstanding practice. I just wanted to clarify that for members.[14]
2.18     
  The committee reminds PM&C that, in accordance with Senate Standing
  Orders, it could require the appearance of any officer if it considered it
  necessary to do so. The committee notes that most departments and agencies that
  appear before it at Senate estimates hearings are represented at the highest
  levels. 
2.19     
The department was questioned extensively on the document entitled Guidance
on caretaker conventions (the guidelines). In particular, the committee
sought guidance on the section dealing with pre-election consultation with the
Opposition and the interpretation of paragraph 7.5.2 concerning the commencement
of the guidelines. Paragraph 7.5.2 states:
  The Guidelines are distinct from the caretaker conventions
    and commence on a different date. They apply as soon as an election for the
    House of Representatives is announced or three months before the expiry of the
    House of Representatives, whichever occurs first.[15]
2.20     
  Questioning focussed in whether the Prime Minister had 'announced' the
  election during her address to the National Press Club on 30 January 2013, thus
  bringing into effect the operation of the Guidelines. The Deputy Secretary,
  Governance, Ms Renee Leon, conveyed PM&C's view:
  The Prime Minister announced in a speech to [the] National
    Press Club that she intended to advise the Governor-General to call the
    election on or around 12 August with the election to be held on 14 September.
    But she has not yet formally announced the election. That will occur on or
    around the time that the Prime Minister advises the Governor-General to
    dissolve the House of Representatives.[16]
2.21     
  The department made the distinction between its responsibilities in
  regard to the Guidelines and the Caretaker Conventions: 
  The caretaker conventions are ones on which the department
    regularly provides advice, both before and in particular during caretaker, and
    does so without reference to the government of the day in the sense—unless we
    are seeking to give advice to the government of the day as to what they can and
    cannot do. They are guidelines that the department of the Prime Minister and
    Cabinet is responsible for. The guidelines on pre-election consultation were
    and are a product of the then government. They may have been the subject of
    consultation with then opposition but they are guidelines that were produced by
    and, ultimately, belong to what you are calling the political arm of
    government.[17]
2.22     
  The department further advised that it had independently formed its view
  about when the pre-election consultation period would commence prior to putting
  that view to the Prime Minister. The department sought the Prime Minister's
  confirmation of its view before replying to a letter from the Leader of the
  Opposition seeking advice on when the period for pre-election consultations
  would commence.[18]
2.23     
The committee also discussed the development of the national security strategy
statement and announcement of the establishment of the Australian Cyber
Security Centre. In response to questions about commentary on the apparent
diminution of attention to the threat of non-state actors in the strategy, PM&C
advised that the strategy was clear in articulating that the threat of
terrorism remains real and persistent, despite the emergence of state actors as
an increasingly important focus: 
  The point being made in the strategy, and also the point that
    the Prime Minister made in the speech at the launch of the strategy, was that
    while the threat of terrorism remains, while it persists and while vigilance is
    very much required, in future decades the role of state actors is going to be
    increasingly important as economic and strategic weight shifts from the West to
    our part of the world. I think some of that commentary misread and misheard
    what was said.[19]
2.24     
  The department confirmed that there is no new funding associated with
  the strategy.[20]
  When asked about adequacy of current resourcing levels, the committee was
  advised:
  There is a very large amount of Commonwealth resources
    devoted to national security—over $30 billion. Agencies, particularly with the
    benefit of the guidance on the national security strategy, have a good, clear
    set of directions about the importance of using those resources efficiently and
    effectively. One of the five-year priorities, effective partnerships to achieve
    innovative and efficient national security outcomes, goes very much to that
    point.[21]
2.25     
  The committee was informed that the newly announced Australian Cyber
  Security Centre will be established by the end of 2013 within current agency
  resources through co-locating all areas of government involved in cyber
  security. It will build on the current cyber-security operations centre within
  the Defence Signals Directorate with officials from other parts of government
  co-locating to the centre. It will focus not only on government networks, as
  the current centre within DSD does, but also on the protection of private
  sector networks.[22]
  The department elaborated on what it sees as the benefits of the structure of
  the new body:
  Colocation means that officials working on similar challenges
    are able to interact on a more day-to-day basis than is currently the case.
    Certainly I think the experience with DSD's cybersecurity centre is that having
    a very small number of officials from other agencies working with them has been
    effective and has been helpful, and the judgement of the national security
    community in working on this particular issue is that those arrangements and
    those outcomes would be made even more effective through colocation. If the
    concern is that we have not developed an entirely new organisation to deal with
    these threats, I guess I would point to similar cross-cutting security
    challenges like, for example, terrorism, in relation to which we did not create
    a new agency that deals only with terrorism; we have brought together, for
    example, in the Counter-terrorism Control Centre, a number of agencies working
    on that particular challenge. They are still responsible to their home
    agencies, but we are ensuring that they are together in the one place and are
    able to share information and expertise more efficiently and more effectively.[23]
2.26     
  The committee was particularly interested in the governance and
  accountability arrangements of the new centre. The committee was advised that
  it will not be an 'independent organisation', but will be a 'standalone organisation',
  with guidance provided by a board of secretaries and agency heads from the
  agencies with representatives forming the centre. Officers from PM&C indicated
  that there will be a senior official appointed to head the centre, however,
  'all of the officials working in the centre will be responsible to their own
  agencies'. On the question of whether a particular portfolio or agency will
  provide administrative support and where the centre will sit for oversight by
  Senate committees, the committee was advised that those arrangements are still
  being considered.[24]
2.27     
The committee also questioned officers of PM&C about a letter from
the Attorney-General to the Australian Information Commissioner dated 27 June
2012 concerning an invitation by the United States Secretary of State for
Australia to join the Open Government Partnership initiative. PM&C advised
that a decision on this proposal has not been made and was still under
consideration by a number of government agencies. Officers further advised that
on 17 September 2012, the Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister replied
to an earlier letter from the Attorney-General about this matter which
indicated that 'further work needs to be done including involving a number of
other ministers in that further consideration.'[25]
PM&C undertook to provide a copy of this letter to the committee on notice.
2.28     
Other areas of interest during examination of the department included
FOI applications and processes, the drafting process for the Australia in
the Asian Century White Paper, Council of Australian Governments processes,
and the funding model for the National Plan for School Improvement.
Portfolio agencies
2.29     
Some of the matters raised with Prime Minister and Cabinet Portfolio agencies
are set out below.
2.30     
The Official Secretary to the Governor-General, Mr Stephen Brady CVO,
updated the committee on the Governor-General's recent schedule, which included
visits to communities across several states affected by natural disasters. One
area of interest to Senators was the Governor-General's recent trip to
Antarctica. Information was sought on the logistics, aircraft, accompanying
staff and the consideration of the former Prime Minister, the Hon. Robert Hawke
AC, travelling on the same flight as the Governor-General.[26]
2.31     
The committee questioned the National Mental Health Commission (NMHC) on
a number of issues in regard to the first national report card. The NMHC
indicated that it was under a number of time and data constraints in the
preparation of the report card. Some of the areas discussed included
cross-government oversight in terms of Commonwealth and state responsibilities,
budgeting and evaluation of programs. Senators also raised the issue of the current
powers of the NMHC in comparison to similar state bodies and how this may
impact on its effectiveness.[27]
2.32     
During examination of the Australian Public Service Commission, the
committee returned to the issue of the level unscheduled absences in the
Australian Public Service. It was confirmed by officers that this topic
appeared on the agenda of the Secretaries Board for the first time in November
2012. 
2.33     
The Office of the Commonwealth Ombudsman was questioned on the
outsourcing of services for an own motion investigation. In particular, the
committee sought details of a contract valued at $20,000 for project management
services in relation to an own motion investigation into the incidence of suicide
and self-harm in immigration detention. It was confirmed that this contract was
awarded to a former staff member of the former Attorney-General and former
Minister for Immigration and Citizenship. The office confirmed that relevant
procurement processes were followed in the engagement of this contactor.[28]
2.34     
 As the independence of the Office of the Commonwealth Ombudsman is
fundamental to its role, the committee raised concerns about awarding this
particular contract for such a contentious issue in relation to government
policy. The Ombudsman informed the committee that other people would contribute
to the report and not solely the contractor. He further advised that he would
ultimately be responsible for the content of the report and it would be for
others to judge if it was appropriately balanced.[29]
2.35     
The committee sought an update on the allocation of staff travel cards
and corporate credit cards at the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO). The
office's increase in travel expenditure of approximately 50 per cent of $1.081
million in 2010–11 to 1,577,893 in 2011–12 was also raised and it was noted
that the office has a relatively large travel budget due to the nature of the
work. However, the Auditor-General was unable to provide more detail for the
large increase and undertook to provide further information to the committee on
notice.[30]
2.36     
The committee also questioned officers of the ANAO on Performance Audit
Report No. 17 for 2012–13: Design and implementation of the Energy
Efficiency Information Grants Program.
Finance and Deregulation Portfolio
Department of Finance and
Deregulation
2.37     
Senators sought details on the methodology used for determining the
revised estimates for asylum seeker and border protection expenses released in
the additional estimates for the Immigration and Citizenship Portfolio. The
Secretary of the Department of the Finance and Deregulation (Finance), Mr David
Tune, advised the committee that figures are based on assumptions about the
number of arrivals. He further advised that Finance is constantly in discussion
with the Department of Immigration and Citizenship in regard to the number of arrivals
and these figure are updated when required for reporting purposes. Mr Tune
added:
  Obviously we had continuing arrivals after the budget during
    the course of 2012, we had the Houston review in 2012 and the decisions on that
    fit into MYEFO and since then the numbers are still reasonably high—as
    mentioned earlier, the number of arrivals to date this financial year are
    greater than the number that we have implicit in the financial numbers—so we
    will need to make an adjustment to that in the budget, and we will be doing so.
    That is broadly the process. That is for the current year and we are doing the
    same for the out-years as well.[31]
2.38     
  When asked about where the final decision rests on the estimates of
  arrivals on which estimates of cost are based, the Minister explained that:
  The Finance portfolio has to be satisfied with the estimates.
    Where in this area or other areas departments may provide their view about
    those estimates, ultimately the Secretary [of Finance] and the government have
    to agree with those estimates.[32]
2.39     
  Mr Tune further commented that in regards to assumptions which underpin
  estimates in the PEFO document, he would make that judgement at the time,
  absent from government.[33]
2.40     
Finance updated the committee on the BoardLinks Network which was launched
on 7 November 2012. This initiative was established to provide more opportunities
for women to be appointed to their first board, to launch and further their
directorship careers, and to the increase the number of potential candidates
for Australian Government boards.[34]
The BoardLinks objective is to have at least 40 per cent of women and 40 per
cent men on government boards by 2015.
2.41     
The committee heard that a number of 'champions' have agreed to
support and publicly promote the initiative. Minister Wong confirmed that she
selected people who are well regarded as leaders in the business community and have
an interest in this issue. Finance has also identified a range of organisations
that also have an interest in promoting greater participation of women on
boards to be affiliate organisations and to work with the government on this
initiative. A website has been established and the initiative will look to
providing networking opportunities, induction for newly appointed women on
government boards and mentoring arrangements.[35]
2.42     
Minister Wong expanded further on the aims of BoardLinks:
  We are trying to overcome a couple of the excuses that often
    get made for women not being in positions. One is that there are not enough
    suitably qualified women. I frankly do not accept that. I suspect there are
    probably not enough suitably qualified women within the purview of
    government—at department level or other. Part of this process is to try and use
    these mechanisms to identify more women of ability and more women who are
    suitably credentialed to go on to boards. So that is the pool issue. The second
    issue is making sure that we try and give opportunities to those women who are
    appointed or who are seeking appointment to get supported in that through these
    networking and engagement opportunities. There is no science to this. But it
    seemed to me as minister that, if we are serious about the 40 per cent
    target—and the government is—then we need to put in place some practical
    strategies to support that.[36]
2.43     
  The committee sought an update on Finance's work program in regard to
  regulation. It was advised that in relation to the Commonwealth-State agenda it
  was still completing some of the seamless national economy and that there is
  continuing reforms associated with the Business Advisory Forum agenda. In
  particular, information was also sought on the more informal processes the
  department has for monitoring and identifying concerns from business on areas
  of regulations which are impacting on the 'red tape burden'. The committee was
  advised:
  For a start, to the extent to which they are Commonwealth legislation,
    they ought to be identified or picked up in Commonwealth regulation impact
    statements. More generally, the BAF agenda has been a very iterative agenda
    with business. The initial BAF agenda was developed in very close consultation
    with the four peak business organisations and then was the subject of
    consultation with major industry groups. We propose to do the same thing with
    any future agenda. So, we have fairly regular consultation with business about
    the nature of their concerns and where they think we could add value.[37]
2.44     
  Further discussion on regulation focussed on the recent publication, Sharpening
    the focus: a framework for improving Commonwealth performances', and its
  reference to 'a growing aversion to risk across the Commonwealth and a tendency
  to respond to perceived risks and failure with more rules...'[38]
  Finance advised that, while this paper predominantly deals with regulatory
  responses to risk within the public sector, they have a flow through to the
  private sector. The Secretary elaborated further for the committee:
  We are talking about the Financial Management Accountability
    Act which governs the financial management of a large number of entities plus
    the CAC Act which covers the corporations. When they are outward focused—that
    is, dealing with customers—they can be business, they can be not-for-profits,
    they can be individuals, there are a whole lot of practices that exist within
    the Public Service, the GBEs and so forth which can be influenced by the
    attitude that is taken through the Financial Management Accountability Act and,
    as the minister mentioned, by the political climate that surrounds it. The two
    things are linked very closely. The first one is focused on the inner workings
    of government, but we recognise that there are very strong connections through
    to the interactions with business and not-for-profits. 
  ...
  If you are risk averse you may put in place a very strict
    compliance mechanism whereby you check everything that comes in and
    double-check it and get it audited. That would mean internally that red tape
    would be imposed on the customers. If you take a different attitude to that, a
    more risk based approach, you might be able to maintain the compliance effort
    but at reduced cost and with less time wasted. That is the philosophy that we
    are trying to work towards.[39]
2.45     
  The committee also sought an update on the Review of the Australian
    Government’s Regulatory Impact Analysis Process (Milliner and Borthwick
  review), and was advised that the Government presented a final response on 4 December
  2012. The department indicated that it is currently consulting across
  Commonwealth agencies, business and not-for-profits on the development of a new
  handbook with a view for it to commence on 1 July 2013.[40]
2.46     
Other areas of interest to Senators during examination of Finance
included the production of the Final Budget Outcome, costings for the National Disability
Insurance Scheme and Gonski Reforms, redevelopment of the Central Budget
Management System project, and the waiver of dentists' debts to Medicare from
the former Chronic Disease Dental Scheme.
Medibank Private Ltd
2.47     
The committee again questioned Medibank Private Ltd on the $300 million
special dividend payment. The committee was advised that it has not yet been
paid and was due to be paid towards the end of the second half of the year. [41]
2.48     
The committee sought advice on Medibank Private's position in regard to
the Private Health Australia campaign against further changes to the private
health insurance rebate. The Managing Director, Mr George Savvides, said that
the organisation is not distancing itself from the campaign, however considers
there are other areas of advocacy the industry should be pursuing:
  The rebate is fine for today, but all of the economic
    critique that has come around that proposition suggests that if you extrapolate
    that into the future with the ageing population it becomes an exponential
    curve—a very high-cost curve. So our argument has been that beyond
    subsidy—which is what the rebate is about—we do need a more permanent solution
    for Australia which deals with care coordination, care at the right point of
    servicing—more chronic is more primary care, less acute. If we do not get that
    right the rebate becomes a very small problem in the light of a significant
    expanding cost base for an ageing Australia.[42]
2.49     
  Other issues canvassed during the examination of Medibank Private
  included the process for the appointment of Ms Anna Bligh to the board, the
  operation of Medibank Health Solutions within the organisation's current
  framework, and premium increases.
Future Fund Management Agency
2.50     
The committee questioned the Future Fund Management Agency on the
significant increase in costs of administration from $50 million to $417.09
million over the last five years. The Managing Director, Mr Mark Burgess, explained
that the fund has developed over that period of time from a high cash weighting
to being fully invested and this has impacted on the associated costs:
  It is going back a long way in terms of the development of the
    fund. As you recall, in 2007–08—and I think the board deserves a lot of
    credit—during that very volatile period in the markets, the fund essentially
    kept a very high cash weighting. The cost of managing cash is very small. And
    at that point the fund held cash. So I do not think it is comparing like with
    like. We are looking at a fund today that is now essentially close to fully
    invested. It is getting closer to, let's call it its 'normal fee level'. It
    would be incorrect to compare the fees over those two periods, because they are
    completely different asset class structures.[43]
2.51     
  The committee also discussed the new internal conflicts committee, which
  has been established to ensure that proper processes take place if a director
  or a guardian of the fund has a conflict of interest and is required to exclude
  themselves from a particular process. It was explained that the conflicts
  committee has only met once to set up its charter and establish its future
  direction.
2.52     
The committee revisited the issue of the level of holdings in tobacco
companies. The agency confirmed that there had been one new holding in the
tobacco portfolio and went on to note that holdings in tobacco companies are at
the discretion of external fund managers.
2.53     
The committee noted the high level of expenditure on travel and sought
more detail from the agency. Mr Burgess informed the committee that it is an
issue that is monitored and taken seriously by the agency. As the agency is
centrally located in Melbourne, and does not have investment offices in other
locations, this impacts on the travel budget and needs to be weighed against
the cost of locating people overseas and reducing travel requirements.[44]
Other Portfolio agencies
2.54     
The committee explored a number of issues with the Australian Electoral
Commission. Of interest to Senators was the early announcement of the election
date and the impact on the office and processes. Other matters considered
included the voting arrangements for blind and vision impaired persons at the
next election, voting eligibility for people living overseas for longer than
six years, rules and processes for viewing the electoral roll.[45]
2.55     
ComSuper and the Commonwealth Superannuation Corporation (CSC) were
examined together. The committee welcomed Dr Jill Charker as the new Chief
Executive Officer of ComSuper and sought her views on how she would approach
her new role. She cited the major challenge as continuing to provide efficient
services within the financial constraints and in accordance with legislative
requirements to meet the needs of members and trustees. The committee also
questioned ComSuper about staffing reductions and corporate governance
structure.[46]
2.56     
 The committee asked the CSC about
its conflict of interest management policy in regard to multiple directorships
for its directors, staffing levels, and the efficiencies following the merger
of the nine superannuation schemes for public sector employees and Australian
Defence Force personnel. [47]
2.57     
The ASC Pty Ltd was asked about the operation of the new Collins Class
Submarine support contract, the In-Service Support Contract (ISSC), which came
into operation 1 July 2012. The Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer,
Mr Stephen Ludlam, explained that it had been a positive beginning: 
  We have set some hard targets for improvement in that
    program. We are currently on track—a little bit ahead on an aggregate
    basis—with the neighbour's requirement for availability. We expect in our
    forecasts and the management of risk going forward that we will give the Navy
    what they wanted throughout the whole of the financial year. We are able to
    work the supply chain in a much better way, so we have greater efficiency in
    the supply chain and are getting quite good supply input at levels greater than
    95 per cent across the piece on each work package...We are progressively removing
    waste from the operation under the lean methods, and our return on investments
    for the investments that we are making are around five to one—for every dollar
    we put in, we gain around $5 back in savings. So I think ISSC has really been
    pretty good for us.
2.58     
  The committee also questioned the ASC Pty Ltd on the full cycle docking
  program, the delay in the air warfare destroyer project and the process for
  setting dividend targets.
 
Senator Helen Polley
Chair	    
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