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Submission 90.1
      TAFE NSW MANAGERS ASSOCIATION
      Requested Additional Paper - Schools and Vet Training
      Prepared by TAFE NSW Managers Association
      Date: 9 April 1998
      Secondary Schools play an important role in developing in young people 
        their personal, academic and vocational abilities, potential and strengths.
      Too often we hear High Schools promoting the academic excellence of their 
        graduates. Sporting excellence is also deemed a virtue.
      However over 1 ,100,000 students are currently enrolled in TAFE across 
        Australia which is greater than the total? population and hence one quickly 
        realises the importance of technical and further education (TAFE).
      TAFE is the most preferred provider of vocational education and training 
        and is the largest provider of VET training.
      In 1997 over 38,000 school students were studying as part of their HSC 
        a VET related course. TAFE NSW through its joint secondary schools program 
        JSST plays a major role in the provision of these studies.
      Secondary school teachers however lack the industrial and adult learning 
        expertise TAFE teachers have and a future model which involves TAFE teachers 
        in the delivery of industry study programs to secondary school students 
        either in school or on TAFE premises is an obvious step forward.
      At present, industry is critical in regard to the experience of school 
        teachers and the relevant standard of the school facilities. On the other 
        hand TAFE facilities are industry standard designed and in fact lead industry 
        in innovation and design standards.
      The relevance of school based programs to the national framework is uncertain 
        as the current school curriculum does not link neatly with the new national 
        modules or areas.
      How Should It Work
      TAFE has seen over the decade an increase in more academic students benefiting 
        from undertaking studies at TAFE, however, there is still concern that 
        the overall HSC or TER score is weakened by the replacement of formal 
        schooling with some vocational courses.
      This dilemma should be arrested. If Universities give credit for the 
        completion of TAFE studies in the way of advanced standing for undergraduates 
        why shouldn't they offer similar recognition for a vocational HSC.
      VET is not necessarily for only non academic students yet industry, schools, 
        parents and students believe this is the case.
      The VET linkages between schools and industry are most unclear. In fact 
        schools have not seen this as a necessity and frequently TAFE provides 
        the pathway through traineeships, pre vocational courses and pre apprenticeship 
        courses for a disaffected school leaver into employment.
      Secondary schools have never been expected to provide this training, 
        they did however in the past (1950's), provide the preparation through 
        Technical High Schools.
      If there is a repositioning of schools and TAFE such as has lust occurred 
        In NSW then the barriers between entry to TAFE or school facilities are 
        further reduced but the learning environment is extremely different in 
        both the Industrial arena and teaching techniques. Obviously industrial 
        relation barriers might persist, but if a single award is created to cover 
        both school and TAFE personal, the joint energy and intelligence created 
        by such a merger will provide a greater acceptance by Industry of the 
        linkages it must create with schools and TAFE to ensure the relevant curriculum 
        and individual student development produces an outcome that will be accepted 
        and recognised by that Industry.
      This structure will enable the deliver of an integrated education and 
        training program and create a smooth transition from school to further 
        education and training and work.
      How Should It be Funded
      The use of school teachers in TAFE for the delivery of matriculation 
        and tertiary entrance, but would need training in adult learning techniques, 
        would free up TAFE resources to allow TAFE teachers to provide VET programs 
        in schools. This would also eliminate the need for the training of school 
        teachers to deliver VET programs.
      Industry training allowances paid by the Commonwealth Government should 
        also be directed to TAFE to support the provision of training in industry 
        related training modules which in turn will reduce the training program 
        once the student is employed. This would be offset against reduced employer 
        payments.
      
      
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