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Submission 8
      
         
          | Australian Society of Certified Practising Accountants170 Queen St Melbourne Vic 3000 Phone: (03) 9606 9609 Fax: (03) 9670 3336 Email: aj3@natoff.cpaonline.com.au A.C.N. 008 392 452 | The Institute of Chartered Accountants in Australia37 York St Sydney NSW 2000 Phone: (02) 9290 5634 Fax: (02) 9262 3241 Email: gillian@icaa.org.au | 
      
      Joint Submission:
      Inquiry into the Appropriate Roles of Institutes of Technical and 
        Further Education
      24 October 1997
      The Australian professional accounting bodies, the Australian Society 
        of Certified Accountants (ASCPA) and The Institute of Chartered Accountants 
        in Australia (ICAA), welcome the opportunity to provide input to the inquiry 
        into the role of institutes of technical and further education.
      The Australian professional accounting bodies are concerned with advancing 
        members' careers as professional accountants, business advisors, finance 
        experts and business information experts. That role includes responsibility 
        for progressing new entrants to the accounting workforce to senior professional 
        status and the raising of professional standards. Through their own post 
        graduate professional education programs, the professional accounting 
        bodies progress the university graduate to full professional status as 
        either a Certified Practising Accountant (CPA) with the ASCPA or a Chartered 
        Accountant (CA) with the ICAA. The ASCPA and the ICAA represent over 100,000 
        members active in the accounting profession in Australia and South East 
        Asia. 
      Our interest in this inquiry relates to:
      
        - ensuring the continued recognition of a university degree for entrance 
          to the accounting profession; 
- acknowledging the legitimate and valuable role of the TAFE sector 
          in the development of participants in the accounting industry; 
- outlining existing articulation pathways leading to professional membership 
          for TAFE diplomates; 
- expressing concerns about the different ways in which a TAFE and a 
          university education is funded and the impact this may have on career 
          choice; and 
- quality issues which are a concern to the ASCPA and ICAA if the role 
          of the TAFE sector is to change.
Degree Entry to the Professions
      The ASCPA and ICAA maintain that the professional accountant is a graduate 
        with a university degree of at least three years full-time duration at 
        undergraduate level, who completed a post graduate professional education 
        program such as the ASCPA's CPA Program or the ICAA's Professional Year 
        Programme (PY). In the United States of America a five year degree is 
        required and in New Zealand a four year degree is required by the local 
        professional accounting bodies for entry to their professional education 
        programs/examinations.
      Universities provide a forum for research, scholarship and learning, 
        introducing students to methodologies that they will use to enhance the 
        capability and performance of the workplace and the community. A university 
        education is seen to prepare the graduate for the responsible and often 
        specialist positions in the workforce which require the exercise of judgement 
        and the assumption of accountability. An accredited university business 
        degree is designed to enhance students' intellectual and personal capacities, 
        such as critical and independent thinking, and develop communication and 
        interpersonal skills, as well as impart an extensive body of technical 
        accounting and business related knowledge. 
      Role of the TAFE Sector 
      We believe that there is a legitimate role for the TAFE sector in the 
        accounting industry. Under an Australian Standards Framework proposed 
        by the National Training Board, an eight level structure has been identified. 
        Some of the lower and all the middle levels of this structure are identified 
        as occupations that require a TAFE qualification. The type of work people 
        employed at these levels may engage in is of a more technical nature. 
        TAFE certificate holders occupy bookkeeper and accounts supervisor type 
        roles. TAFE diplomates play an important role in the accounting industry, 
        occupying technical and support roles such as accounting technician and 
        accounts managers. We believe that recent ITAB funded research into middle 
        level accounting competencies supports this structure.
      There is a demand in the workplace for people at these levels and a need 
        for the type of courses that produce them. In preparing individuals for 
        these roles, the TAFE sector makes an important contribution to the community 
        and the economy. We strongly support the maintenance of the vocational 
        and technical orientation of TAFE education and training. If the TAFE 
        sector changes into a collection of quasi university institutions, then 
        there will be a need to establish separate institutions to provide vocational 
        and technical training.
      Articulation into University Courses
      Ongoing research conducted by the two professional accounting bodies 
        indicates that some 14% of students enrolled in courses which lead to 
        the award of an accredited commerce degree at university, hold TAFE qualifications. 
        The professional accounting bodies have developed policies to encourage 
        TAFE diplomates who have the capacity, ambition and desire to progress 
        towards a professional role in the accounting industry. Up to one year 
        advanced standing in a university degree is accepted by the ASCPA and 
        ICAA for a TAFE Associate/Advanced Diploma. In addition, certain Masters 
        degrees of two years duration are recognised as preparing non-degree holders, 
        including holders of TAFE qualifications, to enter the profession. The 
        professional accounting bodies recently accredited such a Masters degree 
        specifically targeted at TAFE diplomates from the University of Technology, 
        Sydney.
      Furthermore, the ASCPA and ICAA have approved a pilot program providing 
        accelerated articulation of 18 months from TAFE into university courses 
        and are monitoring the situation carefully. However, as the program is 
        only in its initial stages we await an evaluation of the program and student 
        progression before confirming a position on these type of TAFE/University 
        arrangements.
      Funding
      We believe the different way in which the TAFE sector and the university 
        sector are funded is relevant to this inquiry. It is of some concern to 
        us that the differential between the cost to the student of TAFE study 
        and university study may be a factor in determining student choice of 
        tertiary institution rather than career orientation and intellectual ability. 
        We propose that the proportional costs of a tertiary education for students 
        in each sector be equivalent and that a deferred fee payment scheme should 
        be established for TAFE students. 
      Quality Issues
      It is the professional accounting bodies' understanding that there is 
        considerable variation in the quality of TAFE courses and between TAFE 
        subjects depending on which Sstate or region offers the course or subject 
        and whether the course or subject is centrally and/or locally examined. 
        We believe that the current focus of the TAFE sector should be on ensuring 
        that vocational education and training provided by all colleges and institutions 
        be of an acceptable standard, rather than pursuing the development of 
        a small number of elite institutions. This is of particular importance 
        as private and/or offshore institutions undertake the provision of TAFE 
        courses. The future focus of TAFE should be on developing excellence in 
        the vocational and training area rather than attempting to emulate the 
        university sector.
      Summary
      The ASCPA and ICAA submit that the appropriate and important role of 
        the TAFE sector is to provide a vocational and technically oriented education. 
        While recognising that institutes of TAFE and universities provide a tertiary 
        level education, the professional accounting bodies believe there are 
        valid reasons for maintaining distinctive and separate roles for the two 
        sectors. We believe the articulation arrangements outlined in our submission 
        adequately address the needs of TAFE diplomates (in the accounting area) 
        who have the capacity and desire to experience the benefits and advantages 
        of a university education.
      
      
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