Standing Committee on Employment, Education 
        and Workplace Relations 
      
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Submission 7
      SUBMISSION FROM GAVIN MOODIE
      Author
      I have worked as an administrator in Australian universities since 1975. 
        1 currently work in a dual sector institution, a university that teaches 
        both higher education and technical and further education (tafe) courses.
       
      Glossary
      This is how I use various terms to refer to different levels, institutions 
        and sectors of tertiary
      education.
      
         
          | Courses | Levels | Institutions | Sectors | 
         
          | PhD Masters Bachelors | University-level 
           | Universities 
           | Higher education  | 
         
          | Bachelors Diplomas | Advanced education 
           | Universities 
           |   
           | 
         
          | Diplomas  Certificates 
           | Vocational education and training 
           | Public TAFE institutes  Private vet providers 
           | Vocational education and training 
           | 
      
       
      Key issues for the vet and higher education sectors
      For tafe institutes and vocational education and training (vet) providers 
        generally I believe that the key issue over the next 5 years will be the 
        structuring and management of competition: how much of government funding 
        will be open to competition between providers; how will this competition 
        be structured; how much of the admission of students will be competitive; 
        and how governments, institutes, providers, industry and students manage 
        the competition.
      For universities the key medium term issue related to the committee's 
        inquiry will be the management of boundaries with tafe: credit transfer; 
        joint courses; and in the competition with tafe for students, legitimating 
        offering lower level and more vocational courses while protecting higher 
        education from intrusion by tafe institutes. Thus, the committee's terms 
        of inquiry seem from this perspective to be taking the universities' side 
        in a competition for students, for courses - for broadened and enhanced 
        roles - and for the accompanying resources.
       
      Key issue for the Commonwealth
      But the key issue for the Commonwealth, I believe, is how it will structure 
        the provision of tertiary education, from high level and prolonged research 
        training leading to the award of a PhD to low level and short vocational 
        courses leading to a basic certificate. In one sense this is neither a 
        new nor a substantive issue. Australia's oldest universities offered sub-degree 
        certificates and diplomas at least until the Murray Committee of 1957 
        - that is, for by far the larger part of their histories. The four dual 
        sector universities have been offering both tafe and advanced education 
        courses for almost a century and PhDs since 1988. Each university is successful 
        in its own way, and just as successful in each sector as single sector 
        institutions. They offer the prospect if not yet quite the reality of 
        providing the 'seamless web' of tertiary education sought by many.
      Notwithstanding those historical and current exceptions, tertiary education 
        remains heavily structured between vet and higher education. Governments 
        structure the sector by level of government, by accountability and co-ordination 
        processes, by accreditation processes and by funding levels and arrangements. 
        The sectors are also structured by their relations with business, by their 
        relations with students and by their relations with the general community 
        local, national and, increasingly, international. The economic and social 
        structuring of tertiary education is outside governments' direct and immediate 
        control, but well within their broad and long-term influence.
      The dual sector institutions are therefore only apparent counter-examples 
        to the structuring of vet and higher education. For even the best integrated 
        dual sector universities are forced by their external circumstances to 
        remain essentially two institutions within one. The question is whether 
        this is desirable and whether governments and the general community should 
        seek to structure tertiary education differently.
       
      Disadvantages of different structures
      The different structures of vet and higher education (and, indeed, the 
        different structures of tertiary education, of post-compulsory secondary 
        education and of adult and community education) establish barriers to 
        the transfer of students and resources between the sectors. They institutionalise 
        anomalies in the treatment of students and staff and in the services that 
        can be provided to the community. They establish inefficiencies and unproductive 
        competition at the boundaries between the sectors. They increase the complexities 
        of government and hence community accountability.
       
      Reasons for structuring different types of tertiary education
      But different structures have the advantage of supporting different arrangements 
        to meet different needs of tertiary education.
      Courses of different lengths and response times. Australia needs 
        tertiary education courses that are short in duration and respond quickly 
        to society's needs. Australia also needs courses of longer duration that 
        serve the community's longer term needs. This argues for different course 
        development, accreditation and accountability processes.
      Courses in different disciplines and that develop different skills. 
        Australia needs courses in different disciplines and ones that develop 
        different types of skills - academic skills, motor or physical skills 
        and affective or social skills. This argues for different curricula, different 
        teaching-learning methods and teachers with different skills.
      Skills at different levels. Australian students need courses that 
        develop basic skills and courses that develop skills to the highest 
        level, and a range of courses in between. This also argues for different 
        curricula, different teaching-learning methods and teachers with different 
        skills.
      Courses with different cost structures. Australia needs tertiary 
        courses with different cost structures so that money may be saved in some 
        areas to spend in others. This argues for different funding levels.
      Students in different geographic, social and economic circumstances. 
        Australia needs tertiary courses accessible to students in different 
        geographic areas, from different socioeconomic backgrounds and for students 
        with different personal circumstances - some want to study fulltime, some 
        want to study in conjunction with family or work; others aren't intrinsically 
        motivated to study but undertake courses in response to external pressures. 
        This argues for different funding arrangements.
       
      Necessary, contingent and convenient organisational structures
      Many of these different types of tertiary education serving different 
        needs are provided within one organisational structure. Thus, one TAFE 
        institute within one State and Commonwealth system may offer short courses 
        developing vocational technical skills funded entirely by industry at 
        the same time as offering extended courses developing academic skills 
        serving broad social purposes which are funded entirely by the Commonwealth. 
        Conversely, some courses that achieve the same vocational outcome are 
        provided in quite different organisational structures, for example, by 
        single-sector universities and TAFE institutes with different financing 
        and fee arrangements within differing governing and accountability processes.
      There is therefore no essential organisational structure that is necessary 
        for any particular form or type of tertiary education. We may observe 
        similar structural variability in other sectors. Some health centres - 
        the teaching hospitals - provide a full range of services from major surgery 
        and other sophisticated treatments to preventative social and community 
        health services. Other teaching hospitals provide only specialist treatments, 
        and other health centres provide only social and community health services. 
        And in the simpler activity of serving peoples' private transport wishes, 
        some business sell new cars, used cars and spare parts, provide full mechanical 
        and panel beating services and sell petrol; while others only sell petrol 
        and junk food. Again, there is no necessary or essential organisational 
        structure for any particular segment of the private transport sector just 
        as there is no one best structuring of tertiary education.
      At least in my view, there is little current justification for the present 
        division of responsibility between different levels of government for 
        different types of tertiary education. The Constitution reserves to the 
        States power over all education - higher education as much as primary 
        education. The Constitution allows the Commonwealth to give the States 
        conditional grants to provide the bulk of tafe funding just as much as 
        it does for higher education. The historical explanation is clear enough 
        in outline, and, interestingly, is probably due to the historical failures 
        of Australian higher education and the success of tafe.
      The Commonwealth provided similar special grants to the States to develop 
        university and tafe courses the defence forces needed for WWII. Again, 
        the Commonwealth provided special grants similarly to fund the expansion 
        of university and tafe courses for post-war reconstruction. Following 
        that period the Commonwealth withdrew from tertiary education, leaving 
        university and tafe funding and accountability almost entirely to the 
        States. In the 1950s two reports were published which documented the poor 
        conditions of Australia's universities - low academic standards, poor 
        teaching, low student demand, poor management and lack of resources. In 
        response to the second of those reports (of the Murray Committee) the 
        Commonwealth established a joint funding arrangement with the States for 
        universities. Another review in the 1960s (of the Martin Committee) prompted 
        the Commonwealth to intervene to correct the deficiencies in advanced 
        education.
      That there were was no such national crises in tafe indicates the comparative 
        success of tafe and the States in meeting Australia's expectations of 
        vet.
      The justification for tertiary education's present division of responsibility 
        between different levels of government is therefore primarily historical. 
        While some organisational structures may be more convenient than others 
        were one starting from scratch, the costs and risks of restructuring argue 
        for trying to achieve change within current structures if possible, but 
        changing structures where they become major impediments to reform.
       
      Structure on courses and client groups, not organisations
      I described different needs justifying different types of tertiary education 
        first, to provide different types of courses. I would therefore structure 
        accreditation and accountability processes and funding levels and arrangements 
        by types of courses. Secondly, I also described different needs by different 
        client groups. I would structure different teaching-learning and financing 
        arrangements by students' major different social and economic circumstances. 
        Different arrangements again are appropriate where the primary client 
        group is an organisation seeking training for their staff or a community 
        or government seeking some broad social benefit such as literacy, numeracy 
        or useful occupations for otherwise unemployed people.
      We already have elements of a structuring by type of course and type 
        of client group, which does not coincide with current sectoral divisions. 
        Thus, arrangements for apprenticeships are quite different to those for 
        other types of vet courses and students pay different fees according to 
        their socioeconomic circumstances. The arrangements for research higher 
        degree courses and students are quite different to those for coursework 
        postgraduate degrees which are different again for undergraduate degrees 
        and students. Higher education and vet institutions alike provide courses 
        for full tuition fees, in-house programs for industry and specially funded 
        or contracted courses for governments.
      I believe that these different arrangements by course and client group 
        should be applied more consistently throughout tertiary education, and 
        that therefore differences by type of institution and level of government 
        should be dismantled.
       
      Implications
      Implementation of this proposal would not result in all 
        institutions attempting to provide a full range of courses in every discipline, 
        just as not every car yard seeks to stock every model and make of car. 
        Neither would institutions stop offering less prestigious courses or providing 
        for people from low socioeconomic backgrounds: BMWs are stocked by only 
        a few car yards.
       
      Conclusion
      I have argued that focussing on the appropriate roles of tafe 
        institutes adopts the universities' perspective in their competition with 
        tafe for courses, students and therefore resources. I argue that the central 
        issue is the purposes and clients served by vet courses, and that this 
        issue arises equally for higher education. I conclude that governments 
        should structure their funding and accountability by type of course and 
        student. This will result in some adjustment of the client groups served 
        by and the portfolio of courses offered by tafe and higher education institutes, 
        but I do not believe that this will result in a stampede up market and 
        to the top of the credential ladder: tertiary institutions are aware and 
        mature enough to build on their distinctive strengths.
      I would be happy to provide the committee with any further information 
        it might seek.
      Gavin Moodie
      
      
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