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Draft Minutes

No. 146

Thursday, 12 September 2024

- 9:00:15 AM

 1The House met, at 9 am, pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker (the Honourable M. Dick) took the Chair, made an acknowledgement of country and read Prayers.


- 9:01:09 AM

 2Appropriations and Administration—Standing Committee—Report

The Speaker presented the following document:

Appropriations and Administration—Standing Committee—Report No. 30: Annual report 2023-24—Report, September 2024.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.


- 9:01:24 AM

 3Paid Parental Leave Amendment (Adding Superannuation for a More Secure Retirement) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—And on the amendment moved thereto by Mr Sukkar, viz.—That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:

(1)notes:

(a)the Coalition’s strong record supporting government funded paid parental leave in Australia;

(b)at the 2010 and 2013 federal elections, the Coalition’s paid parental leave policy sought to deliver 26 weeks’ paid parental leave based on actual wage and included superannuation; and

(c)both Labor and the Greens opposed the Coalition’s paid parental leave policy; and

(2)calls on the Government to amend the Paid Parental Leave Act to provide choice to Australian families by giving eligible PPL recipients the option of:

(a)receiving superannuation on the government funded paid parental leave payment; or

(b)receiving 26 weeks’ of paid parental leave from 1 July 2025, increasing to 28 weeks from 1 July 2026; or

(c)receiving a one-off payment equal to the value of the superannuation amount to help with costs associated with the arrival of a newborn or adopted child

Debate resumed.


Mr Albanese 9:01:47 AM. Ms Rishworth 9:16:28 AM.
- 9:22:07 AM

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.


- 9:22:21 AM

Division 461

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 54

Mrs Andrews

Dr Gillespie

Mrs McIntosh

Mr Taylor

Mrs Archer

Mr Goodenough

Mrs Marino

Mr Tehan

Ms Bell

Mr Hamilton

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr van Manen

Mr Birrell*

Mr Hawke

Mr L O’Brien

Mr Vasta

Mr Boyce

Mr Hogan

Mr Pasin

Mr Violi

Mr Buchholz

Mr Howarth

Mr Pearce

Mr Wallace

Mr Caldwell

Mr Joyce

Mr Pike

Ms Ware

Mr Chester

Mr Kennedy

Mr Pitt

Dr Webster

Mr Coleman

Ms Landry

Ms Price

Mr Willcox

Mr Conaghan

Ms Le

Mr Ramsey*

Mr R Wilson

Mr Dutton

Mr Leeser

Ms Sharkie

Mr Wolahan

Mr Entsch

Ms Ley

Mr Stevens

Mr Wood

Mr Fletcher

Mr Littleproud

Mr Sukkar

Mr Young

Mr Gee

Mr McCormack

NOES, 88

Mr Albanese

Ms Daniel

Dr Leigh

Ms J Ryan

Dr Aly

Ms Doyle

Mr Lim

Dr M Ryan

Dr Ananda-Rajah

Mr Dreyfus

Ms McBain

Dr Scamps

Mr Bandt

Mrs Elliot

Ms McBride

Ms Scrymgour

Mr Bates

Ms Fernando

Mr Marles

Mr Shorten

Ms Belyea

Dr Freelander

Ms Mascarenhas

Ms Sitou

Mr Bowen

Dr Garland

Ms Miller-Frost

Mr Smith*

Mr Burke

Mr Georganas

Mr B Mitchell

Ms Spender

Mr Burnell

Mr Giles

Mr R Mitchell

Ms Stanley*

Ms Burney

Mr Gorman

Dr Mulino

Ms Steggall

Mr Burns

Mr Gosling

Mr Neumann

Ms Swanson

Mr Butler

Dr Haines

Ms O’Neil

Ms Templeman

Ms Byrnes

Mr Hill

Ms Payne

Mr Thistlethwaite

Dr Chalmers

Mr Husic

Mr Perrett

Ms Thwaites

Mr Chandler-Mather

Mr Jones

Mrs Phillips

Ms Tink

Ms Chaney

Ms Kearney

Ms Plibersek

Ms Vamvakinou

Dr Charlton

Mr Keogh

Mr Rae

Ms Watson-Brown

Ms Chesters

Mr Khalil

Dr Reid

Mr Watts

Mr Clare

Ms C King

Mr Repacholi

Ms Wells

Ms Claydon

Ms M. M. H. King

Ms Rishworth

Mr Wilkie

Ms Coker

Ms Lawrence

Ms Roberts

Mr J Wilson

Mr Conroy

Mr Laxale

Ms Rowland

Mr Zappia

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.


- 9:30:20 AM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put and passed—bill read a second time.


- 9:30:40 AM

Message from the Governor-General

Message No. 19914 August 2024, from Her Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.


- 9:31:14 AM

Leave granted for third reading to be moved immediately.

On the motion of Ms Rishworth (Minister for Social Services), the bill was read a third time.


- 9:31:43 AM

 4Wage Justice for Early Childhood Education and Care Workers (Special Account) Bill 2024

Mr Clare (Minister for Education), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to establish the Wage Justice for Early Childhood Education and Care Workers Special Account, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Clare presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 9:32:32 AM

Mr Clare moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 9:40:55 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Howarth), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 9:41:11 AM

 5Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024

Ms Rowland (Minister for Communications), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to communications, and for related purposes.

Document

Ms Rowland presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 9:41:45 AM

Ms Rowland moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 9:55:54 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Howarth), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 9:56:28 AM

 6closure of the Afghanistan Inquiry report—MINISTERIAL STATEMENT

Mr Marles (Minister for Defence), by leave, made a ministerial statement relating to the closure of the Afghanistan inquiry report.


- 10:11:00 AM

Mr Hastie addressed the House in reply.


- 10:21:21 AM

Document

Mr Marles presented the following document:

Statement by the Minister for Defence, Richard Marles MP, 12 September 2024.


- 10:21:21 AM

Document

Mr Hastie, by leave, presented the following document:

Statement by Andrew Hastie MP, 12 September 2024.


- 10:21:47 AM

 7Privileges and Members’ Interests CommitteeREPORT—STATEMENT BY MEMBER

Mr R Mitchell (Chair) presented the following document:

Privileges and Members’ Interests CommitteeStatement representing the committee’s report in response to the matter of privilege referred to it by the House, in relation to a concerns notice issued to the Member for Bruce.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.


- 10:22:02 AM

Mr R Mitchell, by leave, read the statement.


- 10:29:39 AM

 8SUSPENSION OF STANDING AND SESSIONAL ORDERS MOVED

Mr Sukkar moved—That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Deakin from moving the following motion immediately—That this House:

(1)condemns:

(a)the ongoing violent and antisemitic protests taking place in Melbourne;

(b)the conduct of protestors who yesterday threw acid, faeces, canned food and bottles at police, punched horses and destroyed property;

(c)the protestors for the effect of their actions on law-abiding Victorians, including business owners who had their trade disrupted and property destroyed;

(d)the protestors for their attempts to jostle and manhandle journalists;

(e)the protestors for the physical and emotional toll their actions are taking on police and emergency services, men and women who have a sworn duty to protect the community and should not be subjected to this behaviour; and

(f)all those who take part in, encourage, or gave comfort to the violent protests; and

(2)calls on:

(a)state and federal authorities to charge and prosecute all people who engage in any sort of violent protest activity to the full extent of the law; and

(b)the Australian Greens to publicly condemn the actions of Victorian MP Gabrielle de Vietri, who has taken part in the violent protests.


Mr Leeser 10:39:51 AM.
- 10:44:53 AM

Ms Kearney (Assistant Minister for Health and Aged Care) moved—That the debate be adjourned.


- 10:45:53 AM

Question—put.


- 10:45:08 AM

Division 462

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 79

Mr Albanese

Ms Collins

Ms Lawrence

Mr Repacholi

Dr Aly

Mr Conroy

Mr Laxale

Ms Rishworth

Dr Ananda-Rajah

Ms Doyle

Dr Leigh

Ms Roberts

Mr Bandt

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Lim

Ms Rowland

Mr Bates

Mrs Elliot

Ms McBain

Ms J Ryan

Ms Belyea

Ms Fernando

Ms McBride

Ms Scrymgour

Mr Bowen

Dr Freelander

Mr Marles

Mr Shorten

Mr Burke

Dr Garland

Ms Mascarenhas

Ms Sitou

Mr Burnell

Mr Georganas

Ms Miller-Frost

Mr Smith*

Ms Burney

Mr Giles

Mr B Mitchell

Ms Stanley*

Mr Burns

Mr Gorman

Mr R Mitchell

Ms Swanson

Mr Butler

Mr Gosling

Dr Mulino

Ms Templeman

Ms Byrnes

Mr Hill

Mr Neumann

Mr Thistlethwaite

Dr Chalmers

Mr Husic

Ms O’Neil

Ms Vamvakinou

Mr Chandler-Mather

Mr Jones

Ms Payne

Ms Watson-Brown

Dr Charlton

Ms Kearney

Mr Perrett

Mr Watts

Ms Chesters

Mr Keogh

Mrs Phillips

Ms Wells

Mr Clare

Mr Khalil

Ms Plibersek

Mr J Wilson

Ms Claydon

Ms C King

Mr Rae

Mr Zappia

Ms Coker

Ms M. M. H. King

Dr Reid

NOES, 63

Mrs Andrews

Mr Gee

Mrs McIntosh

Mr Sukkar

Mrs Archer

Dr Gillespie

Mrs Marino

Mr Taylor

Ms Bell

Mr Goodenough

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr Tehan

Mr Birrell

Dr Haines

Mr L O’Brien

Ms Tink

Mr Boyce

Mr Hamilton

Mr Pasin

Mr van Manen

Mr Broadbent

Mr Hastie

Mr Pearce

Mr Vasta

Mr Buchholz

Mr Hawke

Mr Pike

Mr Violi

Mr Caldwell

Mr Hogan

Mr Pitt

Mr Wallace

Ms Chaney

Mr Howarth

Ms Price

Ms Ware

Mr Chester

Mr Joyce

Mr Ramsey*

Dr Webster

Mr Conaghan

Mr Kennedy

Dr M Ryan

Mr Willcox

Mr Coulton*

Ms Landry

Dr Scamps

Mr R Wilson

Ms Daniel

Mr Leeser

Ms Sharkie

Mr Wolahan

Mr Dutton

Ms Ley

Ms Spender

Mr Wood

Mr Entsch

Mr Littleproud

Ms Steggall

Mr Young

Mr Fletcher

Mr McCormack

Mr Stevens

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.


- 10:53:29 AM

Debate adjourned and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 10:54:18 AM

 9Criminal Code Amendment (Hate Crimes) Bill 2024

Mr Dreyfus (Attorney-General), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code Act 1995, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Dreyfus presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 10:54:52 AM

Mr Dreyfus moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 11:04:54 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Howarth), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 11:05:11 AM

 10Privacy and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2024

Mr Dreyfus (Attorney-General), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law in relation to privacy and the criminal law, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Dreyfus presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 11:05:40 AM

Mr Dreyfus moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 11:25:59 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Howarth), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 11:26:12 AM

 11Treasury Laws Amendment (2024 Tax and Other Measures No. 1) Bill 2024

Mr Jones (Assistant Treasurer) presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to taxation, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Jones presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 11:26:46 AM

Mr Jones moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 11:32:03 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Howarth), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 11:32:16 AM

 12Future Made in Australia (Guarantee of Origin) Bill 2024

Mr J Wilson (Assistant Minister for Climate Change and Energy), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to establish a scheme to certify renewable electricity and products such as hydrogen, and for related purposes.

Documents

Mr J Wilson presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill and an addendum to the explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 11:40:05 AM

Mr J Wilson moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 11:40:18 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Howarth), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 11:40:33 AM

 13Future Made in Australia (Guarantee of Origin Charges) Bill 2024

Mr J Wilson (Assistant Minister for Climate Change and Energy) presented a Bill for an Act to impose charges on profiles and facilities registered under the Future Made in Australia (Guarantee of Origin) Act 2024, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr J Wilson presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 11:41:01 AM

Mr J Wilson moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 11:43:43 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Howarth), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 11:44:02 AM

 14Future Made in Australia (Guarantee of Origin Consequential Amendments and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2024

Mr J Wilson (Assistant Minister for Climate Change and Energy), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to deal with consequential and transitional matters arising from the enactment of the Future Made in Australia (Guarantee of Origin) Act 2024, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr J Wilson presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 11:44:52 AM

Mr J Wilson moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 11:47:55 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Howarth), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 11:48:09 AM

 15AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENTARY DELEGATION—REPORT—STATEMENT BY MEMBER

Mr Neumann presented the following document:

Australian Parliamentary Delegation to Malaysia, 19 to 22 November 2023Report, September 2024.


- 11:48:23 AM

Mr Neumann, by leave, made statement in connection with the report.


- 11:51:51 AM

 16Treasury Laws Amendment (Reserve Bank Reforms) Bill 2023—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

The Deputy Speaker reported that the Federation Chamber had been unable to complete its consideration of the bill and had returned the bill with an unresolved question (see item No. 6, Minutes of Proceedings of the Federation Chamber, 11 September 2024), and presented a certified copy of the bill together with a schedule of the unresolved question.


- 11:51:54 AM

Unresolved question—That the bill be now read a second time


- 11:52:31 AM

Question—put.


- 11:52:43 AM

Division 463

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 83

Mr Albanese

Ms Doyle

Dr Leigh

Ms Rowland

Dr Aly

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Lim

Ms J Ryan

Dr Ananda-Rajah

Mrs Elliot

Ms McBain

Dr M Ryan

Ms Belyea

Ms Fernando

Ms McBride

Dr Scamps

Mr Bowen

Dr Freelander

Mr Marles

Ms Scrymgour

Mr Burke

Dr Garland

Ms Mascarenhas

Mr Shorten

Mr Burnell

Mr Georganas

Ms Miller-Frost

Ms Sitou

Ms Burney

Mr Giles

Mr B Mitchell

Mr Smith*

Mr Burns

Mr Gorman

Mr R Mitchell

Ms Spender

Mr Butler

Mr Gosling

Dr Mulino

Ms Stanley*

Ms Byrnes

Dr Haines

Mr Neumann

Ms Steggall

Dr Chalmers

Mr Hill

Ms O’Neil

Ms Swanson

Ms Chaney

Mr Husic

Ms Payne

Ms Templeman

Dr Charlton

Mr Jones

Mr Perrett

Mr Thistlethwaite

Ms Chesters

Ms Kearney

Mrs Phillips

Ms Vamvakinou

Mr Clare

Mr Keogh

Ms Plibersek

Mr Watts

Ms Claydon

Mr Khalil

Mr Rae

Ms Wells

Ms Coker

Ms M. M. H. King

Dr Reid

Mr Wilkie

Ms Collins

Ms Lawrence

Mr Repacholi

Mr J Wilson

Mr Conroy

Mr Laxale

Ms Rishworth

Mr Zappia

Ms Daniel

Ms Le

Ms Roberts

NOES, 60

Mrs Andrews

Mr Dutton

Ms Ley

Mr Sukkar

Mrs Archer

Mr Entsch

Mr Littleproud

Mr Taylor

Mr Bandt

Mr Fletcher

Mr McCormack

Mr Tehan

Mr Bates

Mr Gee

Mrs McIntosh

Mr van Manen

Ms Bell

Dr Gillespie

Mrs Marino

Mr Vasta

Mr Birrell

Mr Goodenough

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr Violi

Mr Boyce

Mr Hamilton

Mr L O’Brien

Mr Wallace

Mr Broadbent

Mr Hastie

Mr Pasin

Ms Ware

Mr Buchholz

Mr Hawke

Mr Pearce

Ms Watson-Brown

Mr Caldwell

Mr Hogan

Mr Pike

Dr Webster

Mr Chandler-Mather

Mr Howarth

Mr Pitt

Mr Willcox

Mr Chester

Mr Joyce

Ms Price

Mr R Wilson

Mr Coleman

Mr Kennedy

Mr Ramsey*

Mr Wolahan

Mr Conaghan

Ms Landry

Ms Sharkie

Mr Wood

Mr Coulton*

Mr Leeser

Mr Stevens

Mr Young

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.


- 12:00:42 PM

—bill read a second time.


- 12:00:50 PM

Message from the Governor-General

Message No. 20028 November 2023, from His Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.


- 12:01:14 PM

Consideration in detail

Bill, by leave, taken as a whole.


- 12:01:43 PM

Mr Bandt, by leave, moved amendments (1) to (3), on the sheet revised 10 September 2024, together.


- 12:12:20 PM

Question—That the amendments be agreed to—put.


- 12:12:32 PM

Division 464

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 6

Mr Bandt*

Mr Chandler-Mather

Ms Watson-Brown

Mr Wilkie

Mr Bates*

Ms Sharkie

NOES, 69

Dr Ananda-Rajah

Dr Freelander

Dr Leigh

Ms J Ryan

Mrs Archer

Dr Garland

Mr Lim

Dr M Ryan

Ms Belyea

Mr Gee

Ms McBride

Ms Scrymgour

Mr Burnell

Mr Georganas

Mr Marles

Ms Sitou

Ms Burney

Mr Giles

Ms Mascarenhas

Mr Smith*

Mr Burns

Mr Goodenough

Ms Miller-Frost

Ms Spender

Ms Byrnes

Mr Gorman

Mr B Mitchell

Ms Stanley*

Dr Chalmers

Mr Gosling

Dr Mulino

Ms Steggall

Dr Charlton

Dr Haines

Mr Neumann

Ms Swanson

Ms Chesters

Mr Hill

Mr L O’Brien

Ms Templeman

Ms Claydon

Mr Howarth

Ms Payne

Ms Vamvakinou

Ms Coker

Mr Jones

Mr Perrett

Mr van Manen

Ms Daniel

Mr Khalil

Mrs Phillips

Mr Watts

Ms Doyle

Ms C King

Mr Rae

Ms Wells

Mr Dreyfus

Ms M. M. H. King

Dr Reid

Mr J Wilson

Mrs Elliot

Ms Lawrence

Mr Repacholi

Mr Wood

Ms Fernando

Mr Laxale

Ms Roberts

Mr Zappia

Mr Fletcher

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.


- 12:19:00 PM

Question—That the bill be agreed to—put.


- 12:19:24 PM

Division 465

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 82

Mr Albanese

Ms Doyle

Dr Leigh

Ms Roberts

Dr Aly

Mr Dreyfus

Mr Lim

Ms Rowland

Dr Ananda-Rajah

Mrs Elliot

Ms McBain

Ms J Ryan

Ms Belyea

Ms Fernando

Ms McBride

Dr M Ryan

Mr Bowen

Dr Freelander

Mr Marles

Ms Scrymgour

Mr Burke

Dr Garland

Ms Mascarenhas

Mr Shorten

Mr Burnell

Mr Georganas

Ms Miller-Frost

Ms Sitou

Ms Burney

Mr Giles

Mr B Mitchell

Mr Smith*

Mr Burns

Mr Gorman

Mr R Mitchell

Ms Spender

Mr Butler

Mr Gosling

Dr Mulino

Ms Stanley*

Ms Byrnes

Dr Haines

Mr Neumann

Ms Steggall

Dr Chalmers

Mr Hill

Ms O’Neil

Ms Swanson

Ms Chaney

Mr Husic

Ms Payne

Ms Templeman

Dr Charlton

Mr Jones

Mr Perrett

Mr Thistlethwaite

Ms Chesters

Ms Kearney

Mrs Phillips

Ms Vamvakinou

Mr Clare

Mr Khalil

Ms Plibersek

Mr Watts

Ms Claydon

Ms C King

Mr Rae

Ms Wells

Ms Coker

Ms M. M. H. King

Dr Reid

Mr Wilkie

Ms Collins

Ms Lawrence

Mr Repacholi

Mr J Wilson

Mr Conroy

Mr Laxale

Ms Rishworth

Mr Zappia

Ms Daniel

Ms Le

NOES, 59

Mrs Andrews

Mr Dutton

Ms Ley

Mr Taylor

Mrs Archer

Mr Entsch

Mr Littleproud

Mr Tehan

Mr Bandt

Mr Fletcher

Mr McCormack

Mr van Manen

Mr Bates

Mr Gee

Mrs McIntosh

Mr Vasta

Ms Bell

Dr Gillespie

Mrs Marino

Mr Violi

Mr Birrell

Mr Goodenough

Mr Ted O’Brien

Mr Wallace

Mr Boyce

Mr Hamilton

Mr L O’Brien

Ms Ware

Mr Broadbent

Mr Hastie

Mr Pearce

Ms Watson-Brown

Mr Buchholz

Mr Hawke

Mr Pike

Dr Webster

Mr Caldwell

Mr Hogan

Mr Pitt

Mr Willcox

Mr Chandler-Mather

Mr Howarth

Ms Price

Mr R Wilson

Mr Chester

Mr Joyce

Mr Ramsey*

Mr Wolahan

Mr Coleman

Mr Kennedy

Ms Sharkie

Mr Wood

Mr Conaghan

Ms Landry

Mr Stevens

Mr Young

Mr Coulton*

Mr Leeser

Mr Sukkar

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.


- 12:25:50 PM

Bill agreed to.

Consideration in detail concluded.


- 12:26:15 PM

On the motion of Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)by leave, the bill was read a third time.


- 12:26:59 PM

 17Australian Naval Nuclear Power Safety Bill 2023—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

The Speaker reported that the Federation Chamber had been unable to complete its consideration of the bill and had returned the bill with an unresolved question (see item No. 4, Minutes of Proceedings of the Federation Chamber, 11 September 2024), and presented a certified copy of the bill together with a schedule of the unresolved question.


- 12:27:02 PM

Unresolved question—That the bill be now read a second time


- 12:27:34 PM

Question—put.


- 12:27:46 PM

Division 

The House divided and only Mr Bandt, Mr Bates, Mr Chandler-Mather and Ms Watson-Brown voting “No”, the Speaker (Mr Dick) declared the question resolved in the affirmative.


- 12:32:22 PM

—bill read a second time.


- 12:32:34 PM

Message from the Governor-General

Message No. 20113 November 2023, from His Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.


- 12:32:56 PM

Consideration in detail

Bill, by leave, taken as a whole.


- 12:33:02 PM

Documents

Mr Marles (Minister for Defence) presented a supplementary explanatory memorandum to the bill and an addendum to the explanatory memorandum to the bill.


- 12:33:15 PM

On the motion of Mr Marles, by leave, Government amendments (1) to (27) were made together.


- 12:39:25 PM

Bill, as amended, agreed to.

Consideration in detail concluded.


- 12:39:51 PM

On the motion of Mr Marlesby leave, the bill was read a third time.


- 12:40:25 PM

 18Australian Naval Nuclear Power Safety (Transitional Provisions) Bill 2023—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

The Speaker reported that the Federation Chamber had been unable to complete its consideration of the bill and had returned the bill with an unresolved question (see item No. 5, Minutes of Proceedings of the Federation Chamber, 11 September 2024), and presented a certified copy of the bill together with a schedule of the unresolved question.


- 12:40:28 PM

Unresolved question—That the bill be now read a second time


- 12:40:58 PM

Question—put.


- 12:41:09 PM

Division 

The House divided and only Mr Bandt, Mr Bates, Mr Chandler-Mather and Ms Watson-Brown voting “No”, the Speaker (Mr Dick) declared the question resolved in the affirmative.


- 12:45:55 PM

—bill read a second time.


- 12:46:21 PM

Leave granted for third reading to be moved immediately.

On the motion of Mr Marles (Minister for Defence), the bill was read a third time.


- 12:46:51 PM

 19POSTPONEMENT OF BUSINESS

Ordered—That business intervening before order of the day No. 4government business, be postponed until a later hour this day.


- 12:47:12 PM

 20Universities Accord (Student Support and Other Measures) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—And on the amendment moved thereto by Mr Fletcher, viz.—That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House notes that:

 (1)the Government’s economic mismanagement and high inflation has resulted in escalating student debt for some three million Australians with a HELP (Higher Education Loan Program) loan;

 (2)the proposal to change HELP indexation to the lower of the wage price index or the consumer price index would still result in student debts increasing by 11.1 per cent since June 2022, with no date by which student debt credits will be applied or refunds paid;

 (3)whether it is student debt, housing or paying bills, Australians continue to suffer acute cost of living pain under this Government;

 (4)the Government has failed to detail eligibility criteria for the Commonwealth Prac Payments or how students will receive those payments, noting that students studying in other areas of workforce shortage such as occupational therapy, psychology and veterinary studies have been excluded from the scheme;

 (5)the Government’s decision to mandate 40 per cent of the Student Services and Amenities Fee revenue be directed to student-led organisations, including student unions, associations and guilds, lacks any transparency measures to ensure money is spent on services which support student welfare; and

 (6)the bill has been referred to the Senate Education and Employment Legislation Committee for inquiry to report by 3 October 2024”—

And on the amendment moved thereto by Mr Bates, viz.—That all words after “reading” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

the House:

 (1)notes that:

 (a)students are being shackled by a lifetime of debt which is making the cost of living crisis worse, locking people out of the housing market, causing people to delay having families and crushing dreams of going to university;

 (b)the Government’s plan to provide student debt relief will still see student debts rise by 11.5 per cent in their first term and arts degrees costing over $50,000;

 (c)the student debt system cannot be fixed because student debt should not exist and higher education, like education at every level, is an essential public good that should be free, universal and provided by the government;

 (d)mandatory unpaid placements are causing students to forego paid work, choose between groceries, rent and medicine, drop out of universities and are taking an immense toll on students’ health; and

 (e)students experiencing placement poverty need urgent relief and should be paid for every hour of work they are required to do as part of their degree, at least at minimum wage, not a lesser supplementary amount; and

 (2)calls on the Government to wipe all student debt, make university and TAFE free, and pay all students doing mandatory placements at no less than minimum wage rates”—

And on the amendment moved thereto by Ms Daniel, viz.—That all words after “House” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

 “(1)notes that:

 (a)many degrees have increased in cost well above CPI resulting in punitive HELP debts placing additional financial burden on Australians in the midst of a cost of living crisis;

 (b)in 2023, soaring inflation resulted in a HELP indexation rate of 7.1 per cent;

 (c)the indexation of HELP debt prior to repayment each financial year unnecessarily increases the cost of debt repayments for graduates and young Australians; and

 (d)HELP debt is considered by banks in assessing eligibility for mortgages and loans, creating additional barriers for graduates and young families as they try to buy a home; and

 (2)calls on the Government to calculate HELP debt indexation after the due date for individual tax returns each year

Debate resumed.


Mr Bandt 12:47:52 PM. Ms Sitou 12:59:15 PM. Ms Spender 1:13:14 PM. Ms Templeman 1:25:13 PM.
- 1:30:06 PM

Ms Templeman addressing the House—


- 1:30:06 PM

It being 1.30 pm, the debate was interrupted in accordance with standing order 43Ms Templeman was granted leave to continue her speech when the debate is resumed, and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.


- 1:30:22 PM

 21MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS

Members’ statements were made.


Mr Vasta 1:30:28 PM. Dr Ananda-Rajah 1:31:51 PM. Mr Violi 1:33:18 PM. Ms Belyea 1:34:52 PM. Mr Bandt 1:36:27 PM. Ms Fernando 1:37:55 PM. Ms Daniel 1:39:17 PM. Ms Payne 1:40:36 PM. Mr Chester 1:42:07 PM. Dr Reid 1:43:42 PM. Ms Ware 1:45:15 PM. Mr Burnell 1:46:48 PM. Mr Willcox 1:48:09 PM. Ms J Ryan 1:49:41 PM. Mr Wolahan 1:51:13 PM. Ms Chesters 1:52:47 PM. Mr R Wilson 1:54:19 PM. Mr Rae 1:55:52 PM. Mr Wood 1:57:28 PM. Ms Miller-Frost 1:59:00 PM.
- 2:00:49 PM

 22QUESTIONS


- 2:00:53 PM

 (1)Mr Dutton to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)


- 2:04:54 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.05 pm the Member for Deakin (Mr Sukkar) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for interjecting and he accordingly left the Chamber.


- 2:05:04 PM

Questions without notice continuing—


- 2:05:18 PM

 (2)Ms Coker to Ms Wells (Minister for Aged Care)


- 2:08:23 PM

 (3)Mr Littleproud to Ms Plibersek (Minister for the Environment and Water)


Point of order, Mr Littleproud. 2:09:35 PM. Ms Plibersek 2:10:32 PM.
- 2:11:25 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.12 pm the Member for Hasluck (Ms Lawrence) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for interjecting and she accordingly left the Chamber.


- 2:11:33 PM

Questions without notice continuing—


Point of order, Mr Fletcher. 2:11:38 PM. Point of order, Mr Burke. 2:11:55 PM. Point of order, Mr Tehan. 2:12:29 PM. Ms Plibersek 2:13:14 PM. Point of order, Mr Joyce. 2:14:31 PM.
- 2:14:50 PM

Mr Joyce requested that Ms Plibersek present a document. Document confidential.


Ms Plibersek 2:15:04 PM.
- 2:16:18 PM

 (4)Ms Miller-Frost to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)


- 2:19:36 PM

 (5)Mr Bandt to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)


- 2:23:27 PM

 (6)Mr Neumann to Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)


- 2:26:43 PM

 (7)Mr Taylor to Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)


Point of order, Mr Taylor. 2:28:04 PM. Dr Chalmers 2:29:04 PM.
- 2:31:04 PM

 (8)Dr Charlton to Ms Rowland (Minister for Communications)


- 2:34:34 PM

Distinguished visitor announced.


- 2:34:49 PM

 (9)Mr Taylor to Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)


Point of order, Mr Taylor. 2:35:51 PM. Dr Chalmers 2:36:26 PM.
- 2:38:41 PM

 (10)Ms Payne to Ms Rishworth (Minister for Social Services)


- 2:42:08 PM

 (11)Mr Violi to Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)


- 2:45:09 PM

 (12)Ms Doyle to Mr Clare (Minister for Education)


- 2:47:03 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.47 pm the Member for Cowper (Mr Conaghan) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for interjecting and he accordingly left the Chamber.


- 2:47:13 PM

Questions without notice continuing—


Mr Clare 2:47:27 PM.
- 2:48:50 PM

 (13)Dr M Ryan to Mr Clare (Minister for Education)


- 2:51:30 PM

 (14)Mr Rae to Dr Aly (Minister for Early Childhood Education)


- 2:54:50 PM

 (15)Ms Ley to Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)


- 2:58:52 PM

 (16)Mr Repacholi to Mr Burke (Minister representing the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations)


- 3:02:18 PM

 (17)Ms Daniel to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)


- 3:06:11 PM

 (18)Ms Claydon to Mr Bowen (Minister for Climate Change and Energy)


- 3:08:30 PM

Document

Mr Bowen (Minister for Climate Change and Energy) presented the following document:

A nuclear powered Australia: could it work?—Committee for Economic Development of Australia (CEDA).


- 3:08:35 PM

Questions without notice continued.


- 3:09:42 PM

 23DOCUMENTS 

The following documents were presented: 

Climate Change Authority—Sector Pathways Review—Report, 2024.

*NBN Co Limited—Report for 2023-24.

*The document was made a Parliamentary Paper.


- 3:10:17 PM

 24SUSPENSION OF STANDING AND SESSIONAL ORDERS

Mr Burke (Leader of the House) moved—That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent: 

(1)a Minister immediately introducing without notice a Bill for an Act about aged care, and for related purposes;

(2)at the adjournment of the debate on the motion for the second reading, the discussion of a definite matter of public importance commencing; and

(3)any variation to this arrangement being made only on a motion moved by a Minister.


- 3:10:41 PM

Question—put and passed.


- 3:11:11 PM

 25Aged Care Bill 2024

In accordance with the resolution agreed to earlier this sitting

Ms Wells (Minister for Aged Care) presented a Bill for an Act about aged care, and for related purposes.

Document

Ms Wells presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.


- 3:11:31 PM

Ms Wells moved—That the bill be now read a second time.


- 3:33:08 PM

Debate adjourned (Mr DuttonLeader of the Opposition), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.


- 3:33:25 PM

 26DISCUSSION OF MATTER OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE—Living Standards

The House was informed that Mr Dutton (Leader of the Opposition), had proposed that a definite matter of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion, namely, “The collapse in living standards under this Government”.


- 3:33:34 PM

The proposed discussion having received the necessary support—


- 3:33:42 PM

Mr Dutton addressed the House.


- 3:43:44 PM

Discussion ensued.


Mr Hill 3:43:53 PM. Mr Howarth 3:54:01 PM. Mr Georganas 3:59:16 PM. Ms Ware 4:04:22 PM. Ms Scrymgour 4:09:28 PM. Dr Gillespie 4:14:21 PM.
- 4:19:44 PM

Quorum calledMr Howarth.


- 4:22:01 PM

Quorum formed.


Ms Roberts 4:22:05 PM.
- 4:27:15 PM

Mr Shorten (Minister for Government Services), by indulgence, made a statement on the protection of Commonwealth frontline public servants.


- 4:29:48 PM

 27ADJOURNMENT

It being 4.30 pm—The question was proposed—That the House do now adjourn.

Debate ensued.


Mr Broadbent 4:29:50 PM. Ms Mascarenhas 4:34:33 PM. Mr Chester 4:39:36 PM. Mr Lim 4:44:48 PM. Mrs Archer 4:49:43 PM. Mr Laxale 4:54:30 PM.
- 4:59:44 PM

The House continuing to sit until 5 pm—The Speaker adjourned the House until 12 noon on Tuesday, 8 October 2024.


- 5:00:14 PM

DOCUMENTS 

 The following documents were deemed to have been presented on 12 September 2024 (An explanatory statement has been presented with each instrument unless otherwise indicated by an asterisk)

National Anti-Corruption Commission Act 2023—National Anti-Corruption Commission Regulations 2023— 

Advice of decision to pay assistance10 September 2024.  

Financial assistance for parliamentariansConsolidated statement of expenditure for 2023-24
10 September 2024.  

Parliamentary Business Resources Act 2017—Parliamentary Business Resources Regulations 2017—Advice of decision to pay assistance—23 August 2024. 

Public Governance, Performance and Accountability Act 2013—Public Governance, Performance and Accountability (Investment) Authorisation 2024 [F2024L01130]. 

Taxation Administration Act 1953—Taxation Administration (Withholding Variation for Certain Payments to US Resident Entertainers Including Athletes) Legislative Instrument 2024 [F2024L01123]. 

 


- 5:00:16 PM

ATTENDANCE

All Members attended (at some time during the sitting) except Mr KatterMs McKenzieMr O’Connor and Mr Thompson.