Cassidy, Laureen (SEN)
From:	Andrew Fleming [andyfleming@mpx.com.au]
Sent:	Thursday, 19 April 2001 5:44 PM
To:	FADT, Committee (SEN)
Subject:	Re: INQUIRY INTO RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION OF DEFENCE PERSONNEL
Yes ia mhappy with anything I said becoming public.
----- Original Message -----
From: "FADT, Committee (SEN)" <FADT.SEN@aph.gov.au>
To: "'Andrew Fleming'" <andyfleming@mpx.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: INQUIRY INTO RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION OF DEFENCE PERSONNEL

> Dear Petty Officer Fleming,
>
> Thank you for your submission.
>
> We appreciate your comments but don't want to do anything that might in
any
> way prejudice your career.  Given the nature of your comments, would you
> confirm that you are comfortable with your submission becoming a public
> submission, which would be placed in due course on the Committee's web
site?
> If not, the Committee would consider making it a confidential submission.
> We don't publish confidential submissions or the names of their authors.
>
> The Committee will consider seriously your comments and suggestions.
>
> I have noted your preference to talk face to face with someone and will
draw
> it to the Committee's attention.
>
> Paul Barsdell
> Secretary
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Fleming [SMTP:andyfleming@mpx.com.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:46 AM
> > To: fadt.sen@aph.gov.au
> > Subject: INQUIRY INTO RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION OF DEFENCE PERSONNEL
> >
> > To whom it may concern,
> >
> >     I would just like to have a small say on what I perceive is why
people
> > are leaving the RAN in particular.
> >
> > 1.     I joined the RAN on the 11 Jan 1983 in that time I have seen many
> > changes and I can't think of one that has benefited me in any way.
> >
> > 2.    In my 18 1/2 years I have spent 11 of that posted to a seagoing
> > ship. So I also think I am an SME on sea service.
> >
> > 3.    The conditions of service that I once enjoyed are slowly being
> > eroded.  Some are examples of this are:
> >
> > a.    The changes in removal and leave entitlements. We now get paid
> > around 30% less for travel on leave and or posting.
> >
> > b.    Accommodation, why do people who live in a beautiful 3/4 bedroom
> > house say in WA pay the same rent as someone who lives in a dog box in
> > Sydney.  The living in contributions has almost doubled, but the
> > conditions of the rooms in some depots haven't changed in 20 years.  Why
> > do single members when they proceed on leave still pay for their
> > accommodation? You never used to but now you do.  I live in RA in
Cairns,
> > yes the Navy pays for most of my rent but why do I have to pay for
> > utilities? Is it my fault that the navy cannot provide adequate
> > accommodation in my area.
> >
> > c.    Why does a member who elects to proceed on posting without his
wife
> > and children now have an entitlement to 6 free flights home a year. Why
do
> > I as a divorced parent only get 1 I say again one free travel warrant to
> > Perth each year.  Oh and by the way that same person will be entitled to
> > free RA and also receive $60 a week to live on. Here I am paying child
> > support so why should I stay in this outfit!!!
> >
> > d.    Why do women in the NPC branch not have to serve at sea? While the
> > same guys are back at sea all the time. At the same time these women
will
> > sit in one spot for 4 years and get promoted because they are stable in
> > one work locality.
> >
> > e.    There are to many people doing traditional sailor roles that are
> > civilians. I believe that civilians do have their place but at the
moment
> > they are taking over.
> >
> > f.    I believe that if you want people to stay in there is only one
> > choice, pay us more.  Look at the amount of hours that we work at sea.
> > The seagoing allowance needs to be at least doubled.  What is also a
> > concern is that when a person comes ashore they loose all the sea pay.
> > This can mean loosing up to $10000 a year . In my case this is what
> > happens. it is extremely hard to readjust.
> >
> > 2.    I would love to go on, but I would rather be able to talk face to
> > face with someone.
> >
> >
> >
> > ANDREW FLEMING
> > PETTY OFFICER NAVAL POLICE COXSWAIN
> > R134401
> >
> > PH 0411300536