No. 15 - Communications between the Houses - Dealing with messages
Messages from the House of Representatives
Communications
between the two Houses of the Commonwealth Parliament occur through messages
from one House to the other. Messages
convey business between the Houses and, as a courtesy, information that is
relevant to the interests of the other House.
Some
messages require no response and are simply reported by the chair “as early as
convenient” (see standing order 155). Messages of this kind include:
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notification
of agreement to Senate resolutions which have been sent to the House for
concurrence;
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notification
of changes to the House of Representatives membership of joint committees;
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notification
of extensions of time granted by the House of Representatives for joint
committee inquiries referred by the House;
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agreement
by the House to Senate bills without amendment;
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agreement
by the House to amendments or requests for amendments made by the Senate
to House bills;
The
Senate sends equivalent messages to the House.
No action arises from such messages.
Other
messages seek action from the Senate in response to a request from the House of
Representatives. Messages of this kind
include those seeking:
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agreement
with resolutions passed by the House, including resolutions for the
appointment, or variation to the terms of reference, of joint committees;
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agreement
to bills passed by the House;
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agreement
to amendments made by the House to Senate bills;
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agreement
to amendments made by the House to Senate amendments to House bills;
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reconsideration
of amendments made or requested by the Senate to House bills, where the
House has disagreed to them;
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reconsideration
of Senate amendments disagreed by the House, combined with requests for
agreement with substitute amendments made by the House.
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reconsideration
of Senate amendments or requests to House bills, disagreed by the House,
insisted on by the Senate and again disagreed by the House;
or
involving combinations or variations of the preceding types of messages.
Again,
equivalent messages are transmitted from the Senate to the House.
When are messages considered?
When
a message from the House of Representatives seeking action by the Senate is
reported by the chair, a minister is usually called to move a motion to provide
for the consideration of the message either immediately or on the next sitting
day. An order of the day for the consideration
of the message on the next sitting day is listed on the Notice Paper as government business. Under standing order 65, the government may
arrange its business on the Notice Paper
to suit its changing priorities (see Brief Guide No. 8—Categories of Business). However, a message transmitting a bill for
concurrence is usually dealt with immediately.
Preliminary stages in the consideration of the bill by the Senate are
completed and debate is usually adjourned after the motion is moved for the
bill’s second reading (see Brief Guide No. 9—Consideration of Legislation).
Procedures for the consideration of messages
The
first step in the consideration of a message is for a senator to move a motion
proposing the terms of the Senate’s response to the House of
Representatives. This motion may be
amended and is often debated. When the
motion has been determined, it is incorporated into a message signed by the
President of the Senate and transmitted to the Speaker of the House of
Representatives.
Messages dealing with legislation
Negotiations
on legislation may require several messages back and forth between the Houses,
and may also involve complicated proceedings.
For this reason, messages involving the further consideration of
legislation are dealt with in committee of the whole which provides a
procedurally flexible forum for debating and determining complex matters. The ability for senators to speak several
times to a question, which is provided under the procedures for the committee
of the whole, is often crucial to the resolution of complex questions about the
form and content of legislation.
The
special procedures applying to messages concerning legislation returned from
the House of Representatives are contained in standing order 126(1) and standing order 132(1).
—the form
of the question
As
with other messages, the Senate’s response to a message concerning negotiations
on legislation starts with a motion proposing the terms of the response. This may take one of the following forms or a
variation thereof:
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That the
Senate does not insist on its amendments to which the House of
Representatives has disagreed (or insisted on disagreeing).
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That the
Senate insists on its amendments ...[unusual].
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That the
Senate does not insist on its amendments ... and agrees to the amendments
made by the House of Representatives in their place.
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That the
Senate does not insist on its amendments...and has made further amendments
in their place, in which it seeks the concurrence of the House.
If
a majority of Senators votes against the motion, the outcome is a reversal of
the original proposition contained in the motion. Thus, subject to an important qualification
described in the section below, entitled “The effect of equally divided votes”,
if a majority votes against the
motion that the Senate does not insist on its amendments, the effect is that
the amendments are insisted on.
Some
motions proposing responses to messages appear to be very complex. A recent example involved the following
situation:
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The
Senate had made amendments to a House of Representatives bill to which the
House of Representatives had disagreed.
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The
Senate had insisted on some of its amendments and not on others. It had made amendments to replace the
ones it had decided not to insist on.
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The House
of Representatives insisted on disagreeing to the original amendments and
also disagreed to the replacement amendments and sent a message
accordingly.
As
negotiations progressed, the government decided to move some further amendments
in the Senate to replace one of the original amendments and one of the
replacement amendments made by the Senate and also decided to support some of
the amendments it had previously disagreed with in the House. When the message from the House was
considered in committee of the whole, a minister moved the following motion:
That
the committee:
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does not insist on
original amendments nos 3 to 7, 10 and 11 made and insisted on by the Senate to
which the House of Representatives has insisted on disagreeing;
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does not insist on
replacement amendments nos 1 to 5 made by the Senate in place of its original
amendments 1, 8 and 9 to which the House has disagreed; and
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makes the following
amendments in place of Senate replacement amendment no. 1 and original
amendment no. 3:
[text of amendments]
Under
standing order 84(3), the Chair may order a
complicated question to be divided.
Reasons for doing this include ensuring clarity of proceedings and
providing an opportunity for senators to vote differently on different aspects
of the question. In this example, the
first part of the question was broken into three separate questions covering
individual or small groups of amendments, and the second part into two. The third part was put separately as well,
providing maximum flexibility to the committee in formulating a response to the
message. The outcome was that the Senate
agreed not to insist on some amendments, to insist on others, and to make
further replacement amendments, a position accepted by the House.
In
another example, the House of Representatives had made extensive amendments to
a Senate bill and had returned the bill to the Senate seeking the Senate’s
agreement to the amendments. In the
Senate, various parties circulated amendments to the House amendments. The overarching question, that the Senate
agree to the amendments made by the House, was divided into separate motions in
respect of each of the House amendments.
Senators then moved amendments to those amendments and the overarching
question was determined step by step.
The outcome was that the Senate agreed to the House amendments with
further amendments, a position accepted by the House.
—the scope
of further amendments
Messages
at the later stage of the legislative process focus on areas of disagreement
between the Houses. Therefore, the
standing orders do not permit agreed areas of the bill to be revisited, except
to make amendments that are relevant to or consequent upon the acceptance,
amendment or rejection of a House of Representatives amendment. However, if the House of Representatives disagrees
with Senate amendments to House bills, the Senate may propose new amendments as
an alternative to the rejected ones.
The
rules for dealing with bills returned by the House of Representatives with
outstanding areas of disagreement are contained in standing order 126, standing order 127, standing order 132 and standing order 134 and provide maximum
freedom to the Senate to seek agreement with the House. Any actions outside the scope of these rules
require the suspension of so much of the standing orders as would prevent the
action. For example, amendments not
relevant to or consequent upon the acceptance, amendment or rejection of House
amendments may not be moved without a suspension of standing orders (see Brief Guide No. 5—Suspension of Standing Orders).
—how
many times can a bill be sent between the Houses?
There
is theoretically no limit to the number of times a bill introduced in the House
of Representatives can be sent back and forth between the Houses in an effort
to reach agreement on it. In practice,
the number of times a bill moves between the Houses is determined by the
likelihood of agreement. If agreement is
unlikely or impossible, either House may order a bill to be laid aside. However, even this action may not be
terminal. In 1997-98, the Senate twice
amended the Native Title Amendment Bill 1997 in terms that were unacceptable to
the House of Representatives which laid the bill aside on two occasions. When further negotiations on the Senate’s
amendments led to a breakthrough, the House of Representatives rescinded the
motion to lay the bill aside, reconsidered the Senate’s amendments and made
further amendments reflecting the policy settlement. A message was then sent to the Senate
requesting its agreement with the new position.
This procedure obviated the need for both Houses to deal with a third bill
through all stages.
The
standing orders provide that a bill which originates in the Senate may be
returned by the House with outstanding disagreements on a maximum of three
occasions. If disagreements are
unresolved on the bill’s third return from the House, the Senate “shall order
the bill to be laid aside, or request a conference” (see standing order 127(1)).
The effect of equally divided votes
Section
23 of the Constitution provides that the President
has an ordinary vote, rather than a casting vote, and that questions are
determined by a majority of votes. If
the votes are equally divided, the question is lost (see Brief Guide No. 16—Voting in the Senate). This principle guarantees the equality of
representation of the original States in the Senate. It is also fundamental in determining the
form of question put by the chair during the various stages of the legislative
process.
The
aim of legislative deliberation is to determine whether a bill, its several
component parts and any textual amendments have the support of a majority of
the Senate. Thus the questions for each
major stage of consideration take the following form:
That the bill be now
read a first/second/third time.
If
the votes are equally divided, the question is lost and, lacking majority
support, the bill proceeds no further.
During
committee of the whole, detailed consideration of the bill takes place and
amendments may be proposed. Amendments
take one of two forms:
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proposals
to omit clauses; or
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proposals
to make textual changes by omitting words, inserting or adding words, or
omitting and substituting words.
Where
a clause is proposed to be omitted, the question takes the form:
That the
clause stand as printed.
This
question is designed to test whether a majority of the committee is in favour
of the clause remaining in the bill. An
equally divided vote indicates the absence of a majority in favour; the
question is therefore lost and the clause is removed from the bill. Putting the question in an apparently more
straightforward way:
That the clause be
omitted
would
produce a flawed result on an equally divided vote. On such an outcome, the question would be lost and a clause which did not enjoy majority
support would remain in the
bill. Therefore, this form of the
question is not used except where the Senate is requesting the House of Representatives to make an amendment which
the Constitution precludes the Senate from making itself (see Brief Guide No. 9—Consideration of Legislation). Such requests
must be supported by a majority.
The
same principle underlies the form of the question used to determine the
Senate’s response to messages from the House of Representatives disagreeing
with amendments made by the Senate, which usually takes the following form:
That the committee does not insist on its amendments to
which the House of Representatives has disagreed.
As
noted on page 3, if a majority votes against this motion, the effect is that
the amendments are insisted upon.
However, if the votes are equally divided the effect is that the
amendments are not insisted on. The rationale for this outcome is that the
equally divided vote indicates that the amendments themselves are now not
supported by a majority. If they were,
the motion would have been defeated by a majority, possibly the same majority
required to make the amendments in the first place. So the bill now proceeds without the
amendments.
A
further complication arises if an amendment disagreed by the House is an
amendment to omit a clause. An equally
divided vote on the question that the Senate does not insist on such an
amendment means that the clause itself still lacks the support of a
majority. Therefore, the amendment to
omit the clause is insisted on.
These
principles were enunciated in rulings by President Sibraa in 1993 and were endorsed in a report of the Procedure
Committee in 1994 (see Odgers’ Australian Senate Practice, 11th edition,
pages 256-57). They apply
regardless of whether the question takes the form, “That the Senate does not
insist...” or the form, “That the Senate insists...”.
Sending messages to the House of
Representatives
Messages
are automatically generated when actions by the Senate, for example in relation
to legislation, require a response to or from the House of
Representatives. The sending of a
message to the House may also be built into the terms of a resolution of the
Senate.
Standing order 154 provides that any
senator may move a motion, without notice and at any time, that any resolution
of the Senate be communicated by message to the House. The motion often includes the words “for
concurrence” to indicate that the resolution is intended for the consideration
of the House of Representatives.
Need assistance?
For assistance with any of the matters covered by this
guide, government senators or their staff should contact the Clerk Assistant
(Table), on extension 3020; and non-government senators or their staff should
contact the Clerk Assistant (Procedure), on extension 3380.
February 2005
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